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Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg243394#msg243394
« on: January 08, 2011, 08:24:50 pm »
NAME:
Pet
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Summon a random Oracle Pet.
NAME:
Pet
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Summon a random upgraded Oracle Pet.
ART:
EmeraldTiger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6830)
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Has this been tried before? I dunno. It just came to me in a rush, thought I'd get it up before I forgot. No idea on the specifics. I balanced the costs off of Fallen Elf|Druid (poll provided). Discuss.
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Pet Advantage (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13377.0.html)
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Re: Pet | Minion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg243399#msg243399
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 08:35:40 pm »
all i can say is meh, pretty balanced seeing as how you can get anywhere from a spark to a nymph, nice cost, and new concept

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Re: Pet | Minion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg243407#msg243407
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 08:40:10 pm »
Why Life? This seems more of a Darkness Card because of the whole "Minion" thing.

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Re: Pet | Minion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg243416#msg243416
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 08:48:21 pm »
Life, you're creating a new creature. The Minion is there solely to upgrade the word "Pet." Maybe another word? Hmmm, I have an idea.
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Re: Pet | Apple of My Eye https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg244404#msg244404
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 05:03:06 am »
I think this is a good idea, though it is a bit similar to fate egg.

Fate egg aside, life has always been the element that would live in the forest and be able to summon creatures, so it makes sense thematically. Feral Bond already implies Life has a special relationship with creatures.

As far as balance, I don't think the upgraded version should cost more. Since the card is upgraded it should receive a boost without having an extra cost.  http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1947.0.html.

As far as the cost goes though, I am somewhat concerned. Fate egg costs 3 :time to play, then you have to wait 1 turn (in which fate egg can be killed or lobotomized) and pay an additional 1 :time. 5 :life for instant gratification is not quite in scale with fate egg. Not sure how to make it fair but here are some ideas.
    Make this a permanent that cost 4 :life and turns into the creature the next turn (a permanent fate egg so to speak)
    Increase the cost to 6 :life
    Increase the cost to 6 :life and have it heal you for 5 when played
Just some ideas. Some would argue that 5 :life is fine. It is really hard for me to tell honestly.

Just leave the upgraded name as Pet, you don't have to change the name. Apple of My Eye is kind of creepy to me somehow.


I really like the idea though, just needs some minor balancing and art.

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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg244661#msg244661
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 08:27:08 pm »
Thank you muchly for the insight, wiz. Always appreciated :)

Added a poll & submitted request for card art (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12664.72.html).
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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg244982#msg244982
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 06:38:51 am »
How is this? I call it Pet Summon.
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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg245386#msg245386
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 09:01:53 pm »
Were you looking at Empathetic bond when you made that Emerald?


I would think the art should be more along the lines of a wooden flute that calls a pet to your side or a piece of food to attract the pet or something like that...

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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg245422#msg245422
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 09:49:14 pm »
A squirrel trap, with a box and a string :D
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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg245424#msg245424
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 09:57:08 pm »
Would you want several silhouettes of different animals on top of that?
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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg245439#msg245439
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 10:18:12 pm »
I'll leave it totally open. The silhouette thing is neat, as well as the bait & catch idea. I also pondered an empty birdcage. I think the idea here is fairly easy to get across thru the card art, so I'll trust ya :)

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Re: Pet | Pet https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19107.msg245451#msg245451
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 10:37:50 pm »
How about permanent that has a spinner similar to the oracle spinner and give it several things it could do.
Pet
Quanta
Random Card added to your deck,hand,or field.
Nothing
Not sure what else something like that could do.
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