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Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg215403#msg215403
« on: December 03, 2010, 02:40:56 am »
NAME:
Peridot Stone
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|3
TEXT:
Gnome Riders +1/+1 when Peridot Stone is in play.
:earth :earth : Target creature is burrowed for three turns.
NAME:
Peridot Gem
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|5
TEXT:
Gnome Gemfinders +1/+1 when Peridot Gem is in play.
:earth :earth : Target creature is burrowed for three turns.
ART:
Jacob Philpott (Ajit), original photo allowed to use under GNU Free Documentation License
IDEA:
Ajit
NOTES:
- Ability can be great in slowing down boosting the stats of another creature
- Passive ability is cumulative; two Peridot Stones both add +1/+1 to all Gnome Riders on the field.
- Target creature is burrowed and can't be unburrowed (until three rounds, then it is automatically unburrowed)
- Although cards indicate that they only work for their respective Gnome (unupped or upped), a Peridot Stone will boost Gnome Gemfinders and vice versa

Changes:
- Passive ability reduced from a +2/+1 boost to a +1/+1 boost
- Defense increased by one for both stone and gem
SERIES:
Gem Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16740.0.html)

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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg215494#msg215494
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 07:43:55 am »
Peridot is green in colour.
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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg215499#msg215499
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 07:50:24 am »
Quote from: Wikipedia
Yellow, to yellow-green, olive-green, to brownish
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Olive Green; second result of google images:
Looks a tad brown with some imagination :)

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Peridot:

Somewhat brown, with some imagination

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Regardless, the strain of finding a perfect theme that has a perfect color for every element would be unrealistic :/

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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg243683#msg243683
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 03:30:22 am »
This card is a cool idea. It could be used to protect your creatures, hinder your opponent’s creatures, or buff your Gnome Rider army.

This card’s targeting burrow ability is balanced. It has a similar effect to Freeze, but allows the creature to still attack (with halved attack). Compared to Arctic Squid, this card has a lower cost but it makes sense because of the above reason. Earth also lacks some reusable form of creature control (except if you count the nymph), which many elements have (Arctic Squid, Maxwell’s Demon, etc). The ability could also be used on your own creatures to protect them from the opponent’s harmful cards. This allows for burrowing of creatures from elements other then Earth, which could be used to open up new strategies with decks featuring more than one element, especially some powerful duo decks with Earth and another element.

The only problem I see is the cumulative buff effect on the Gnome Riders/Gemfinders. With fractal, you could make a deck with Peridot Stones and Gnome Riders. Because of their low cost, these creatures are easily fractal-able and you could have 6+ Gnome Riders with 13 attack with 6 Peridot Stones. While this may or may not be balanced compared to other cards, there is a possibility for a fast OTK is out there, especially considering upgraded cards. Just something to keep in mind.

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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg243766#msg243766
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 06:05:35 am »
This is an interesting and intriguing card idea and brings a new aspect into the game.  It has the ability to help you in two ways and hurt your opponent at the same time while not actually attacking.  I think the passive ability is great, as it makes a greater use to the card and the gnome riders/gemfinders, which are scarcely used.  I think that the passive ability should not stack if their are multiple Peridot Stones in play, or at least stack only once or twice, as it would make the card slightly OP.   The active ability is a fantastic idea, and brings a whole new sense of defense to the game.  Earth, imo, does not have strong CC, other than Basilisk Blood, and this is the perfect addition to it.  For only the cheap price of 2  :earth, you cut the attack of your opponent's creatures, and that is before shields.  Cards do not have to kill or stun/freeze creatures for them to be effective in stopping attacks.  This + diamond shield is a great combo and would surely be used if this card makes it into the game.  I think that the card itself deserves a little more health, seeing that it is a rock and rocks tend to be bigger.  I have one question, if say you use the ability on a 5/4 creature.  Does it come back as a 5/4 or a 4/4 because or rounding done when burrowed?  Regardless of the answer, good job on the card idea.  I hope it does well.
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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg244495#msg244495
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 11:31:39 am »
Gnome Gemfinders are underused, I mean, there are decks that have Gemfinders in them, but in general Gemfinders are kinda useless apart from the quanta generation... This card makes another use for gemfinders, especially useful with fractal Gemfinders. The card also offers a temporary 'disable' for the creature's attack, which can be deadly when there are 2+ gems on the field, this card is a good addition to the stall part in the earth cards. To be honest, this card is extremely OP if people use Fractal Gemfinders, which they probably will is the card is implemented into the game. Fractalling these 1 time can have a disastrous effect on an average of a +8 boost to gnome Gemfinders, then finally fractalling Gemfinders like dragons for only 1 earth quanta is a scary thought  :-X. Don't forget as well that the gem can act as CC as well, which just contributes to the danger factor. Although the idea and concept is generally balanced, the fact that the card is a creature and can be fractalled makes it over-powered. I would recommend changing the card into a permanent if possible, since the Gem can be more of a permanent than a creature. In fact, I would probably make this part of a rare card series. Apart from the fact that this card is deadly in fractal Gemfinders, I like this card a lot.
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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg244782#msg244782
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 12:38:05 am »
Thanks for all the input and critiquing guys :)

I could definitely find reducing the boost to a +1/+1 might be more reasonable?  The thing that must be noted here is that the boost is not permanent.  If you kill a Peridot Stone, all Gnomes will lose their bonuses from that Stone.  So all of the sudden CC becomes very effective in disabling this tactic.

So how about a reduction to +1/+1?

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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg244808#msg244808
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 01:21:19 am »
+2|+1 is a reasonable boost, but with fractal it becomes too overpowered. +1|+1 sounds fine to me.

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Re: Peridot Stone | Peridot Gem https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16839.msg245560#msg245560
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 01:31:18 am »
Done.  Have upped the HP by 1 for both, and lowered the boost to a +1/+1

 

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