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Title: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Helston on March 03, 2013, 10:00:10 am
(http://i.imgur.com/6fvdDSK.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/PdW7g1M.png)
NAME:
Orbital Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Reduce all damage taken from attacks and spells by 50%. Out of range every third turn.
NAME:
Orbital Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Shield: Reduce all damage taken from attacks and spells by 50%. Out of range every third turn.

ART: 
EmeraldTiger (Source (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg399692.html#msg399692))
IDEA:
Helston
NOTES:
Reduces damage taken from all non-momentum sources by the player. Every third turn, the shield's in the wrong part of its orbit to block any damage, and lets all damage through in full. If a replacement shield is played over the old one, the orbit restarts and you have two more turns before taking full damage again.

Averages out to reducing damage by 33% if it isn't chained. Reduces spell damage to soft counter Bolt spells, as well as help create a difference between Momentum and SoW/Psion.
SERIES:

Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Maximito on March 03, 2013, 10:51:38 am
very nice i love it....
 seems a little cheap in cost, but it is a shield not like it stacks
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Zaealix on March 03, 2013, 01:24:06 pm
Interesting shield...I like it, it promises to be more useful than the generally scorned Gravity shield, but still has it's weakpoints.
Curious how Gravity's shields seems better suited for dealing with a few, powerful creatures instead of a bunch of little ones though.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on March 03, 2013, 03:14:27 pm
The simple 'orbit' mechanic you've put here really helps turn the card from a boring average DR-shield to something that is interesting to play and thematically fits Gravity very well.

How would this image by EmeraldTiger (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,17991.msg399692.html#msg399692) work for art?
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd228029/Fission.png)
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Rutarete on March 03, 2013, 11:24:16 pm
This is pretty cool! I agree with what Z said. I also see an interesting thematic relation to Gravity Shield. It keeps things down, while this one is moving. They're counterparts :)
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Zaealix on March 04, 2013, 12:38:19 am
Which Z? We both have Z in our names :P
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Rutarete on March 04, 2013, 12:57:01 am
Quote from: Zaealix on March 04, 2013, 12:38:19 am
Which Z? We both have Z in our names :P
Zblader, as he's the one whose name is typically shortened to Z.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Zaealix on March 04, 2013, 02:04:26 am
Something I just thought of-what if the shield alternated between physical and spell damage?
The idea being to expand on spell damage as a mechanic and interactions.
Of course, this idea could be used elsewhere, like for  :aether...
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Helston on March 05, 2013, 10:28:22 am
I think I prefer this one from the same thread - actually gets a planet in there:

(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd222332/Flare.png)

Quote from: Maximito on March 03, 2013, 10:51:38 am
very nice i love it....
 seems a little cheap in cost, but it is a shield not like it stacks

Tried putting it somewhere between where Fog Shield (with an arguably more balanced 3|2 cost instead of 2|1), and phase shield's 6|5. Chaining becomes quite expensive for the benefit you gain.

Any ideas what should happen with odd attacks? Round up, round down, or randomly pick?
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: OdinVanguard on March 06, 2013, 05:26:49 pm
Posting to keep track.

Interesting concept. I like the cyclical theme. It will encourage created strategies to deal with the timing.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Annele on April 14, 2013, 07:10:01 am
CURATOR COMMENT

This card will not be permitted into the Crucible due to one or more of the following errors:


Correct these errors as soon as possible and feel free to submit again when ready.

Thank you. ^_^

Please make sure the 'Type' section only includes Permanent, Spell, or Creature - nothing else.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Helston on April 14, 2013, 03:46:29 pm
Fixed, and hooray for curators!
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: blarp on April 15, 2013, 09:34:53 am
hmm. 50% is a lot.

needs testing.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Helston on April 15, 2013, 09:58:11 am
Quote from: blarp on April 15, 2013, 09:34:53 am
hmm. 50% is a lot.

needs testing.

It averages out to 33% over three turns, and 50% is what Dusk lets through anyway. Unless you start chaining them every second turn, in which case it is 50% at the same quanta cost per turn as chaining Dims.

But it probably still needs testing.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: OldTrees on April 15, 2013, 02:46:15 pm
Quote from: Helston on April 15, 2013, 09:58:11 am
Quote from: blarp on April 15, 2013, 09:34:53 am
hmm. 50% is a lot.

needs testing.

It averages out to 33% over three turns, and 50% is what Dusk lets through anyway. Unless you start chaining them every second turn, in which case it is 50% at the same quanta cost per turn as chaining Dims. (And 2/3rds the duration of a dim chain)

But it probably still needs testing.
It still needs testing to see if the lower cost and protection against both attacks and spells is sufficient to make up for the weaker miss chance.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: avantasia666 on April 15, 2013, 03:25:07 pm
Like it a lot. As mentioned it might need some testing, but my feeling says it's pretty balanced. The art is kinda.... strange. Not in a bad way. Just unusual. ^^
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: skyironsword on April 17, 2013, 12:20:54 am
Kinda weird that it reduces spell damage, because spell damage is basically slightly weaker momentum that can be reflected. Though I suppose as long as momentum goes through it, it's fine. Interesting idea, I support it.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: Helston on April 28, 2013, 02:04:04 am
Important question: how can I go about testing this? I'd like to put some time into this card idea if I can to see how far it goes.
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: OldTrees on April 28, 2013, 07:46:04 am
Quote from: Helston on April 28, 2013, 02:04:04 am
Important question: how can I go about testing this? I'd like to put some time into this card idea if I can to see how far it goes.
PM ZBlader about "card idea battleground"
Title: Re: Orbital Shield | Orbital Shield
Post by: skyironsword on May 06, 2013, 09:12:26 pm
Dusk Mantle: 6 :darkness 50% blocked
Fog Shield: 2 :air 40% blocked
Orbital Shield: 4 :gravity 33% blocked

By logic, your shield should cost around negative two. I think fog shield needs a nerf.
blarg: Helston