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Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113700#msg1113700
« on: December 07, 2013, 06:44:44 am »
NAME:
Observant Orb
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|1
TEXT:
Adaptation:
Upon taking fatal damage, Observant Orb duplicates the effect that kills it.
NAME:
Observant Sphere
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|1
TEXT:
Adaptation:
Upon taking fatal damage, Observant Sphere duplicates effect that kills it.

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NOTES:
Confusing wording, so I'm going to expand here:
  • If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by a SPELL, it automatically casts that spell as it dies (if it was a target spell, choose a random target).
  • If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by a CREATURE, it turns into that creature. (Being devoured, it becomes the base card, as if Mitosis'd)
  • If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by POISION, it infects a random enemy creature.
  • If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by FIRE SHIELD, it inflicts one damage to all enemy creatures.

For balancing, I compared Observant to Fate Egg in that it has the same creature changing ability. I tacked on an extra quanta since it is also able to copy spells
5=3(Fate Egg)+1(Hatch)+1(Ability)      .      .      .      4=3(Fate Egg)+1(Hatch)+1(Ability)-1(Upgraded)

Constructive Criticism is extremely welcome. (v0.3)
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VERSION HISTORY:
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  • v0.3- Added details about being devoured
  • v0.2- Added details about poison and Fire Shield effects
  • v0.1- Card created
« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 04:29:17 am by WhitEOuT »

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113702#msg1113702
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2013, 06:59:27 am »
What if it is killed by a permanent? (Owl's Eye, Catapult, Unstable Gas, Fire Shield, etc.)

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113705#msg1113705
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2013, 07:10:37 am »
What if it is killed by a permanent? (Owl's Eye, Catapult, Unstable Gas, Fire Shield, etc.)

For Unstable Gas, I would have it cast the same effect (20 dmg to opp, 1 to opp creatures) but for the others, I'm not sure.  Suggestions for what it should do?

Edit: For Owl's Eye and Catapult, it would treat the damage as a spell, and target a random enemy creature to Snipe or Catapult (respectively).  I'm still unsure about fire shield.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2013, 09:06:41 am by WhitEOuT »

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113744#msg1113744
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2013, 01:56:46 pm »
Not sure why someone would buff this card just to let fire shield kill it...
But if there is I would suggest it just die. I mean seriously what can you do?

Pandemonium would be very chaotic.

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113830#msg1113830
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2013, 11:48:06 pm »
If the orb is killed by poison, have it infect a random creature. If it is killed by Fire Shield have it deal one damage to all the opponent's creatures.  ;D
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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113867#msg1113867
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 03:01:44 am »
If the orb is killed by poison, have it infect a random creature. If it is killed by Fire Shield have it deal one damage to all the opponent's creatures.  ;D

I like those ideas. Thanks  :D

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113901#msg1113901
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 01:15:13 pm »
This is an interesting card, that's for sure, but when would you use it? There is no reason for the opponent to target it, and all the single target spells you throw at it, you could just as well have thrown directly on another target. I guess it could be used as protection from aoe-spells, but even then it just redirects it a random target, so you might just as well replace this with a lightning for better effect.
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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1113904#msg1113904
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 02:01:53 pm »
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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1114467#msg1114467
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 06:48:38 pm »
This is an interesting card, that's for sure, but when would you use it? There is no reason for the opponent to target it, and all the single target spells you throw at it, you could just as well have thrown directly on another target. I guess it could be used as protection from aoe-spells, but even then it just redirects it a random target, so you might just as well replace this with a lightning for better effect.

The main use I had in mind was AoE protection, as the reflection isn't random.  For example, if your opponent cast Rain of Fire and it killed Observant, the game would act as if you cast your own Rain of Fire immediately after Observant died.  Does that make more sense?

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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1114483#msg1114483
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2013, 08:30:37 pm »
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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1114817#msg1114817
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 06:00:16 pm »
what if this creature is eaten by a 0/3, that becomes a 1/4 after eating it? will this cast the ability as it was casted by a 0/3, a 0/1 or a 0/(infinite) and target a random creature?
or it wont count as "fatal damage" so it will have no effect?

"If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by a CREATURE, it turns into that creature"

i guess it will turn into that creature, but this effect is hardly predictable by reading the card's text
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Re: Observant Orb | Observant Sphere https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52751.msg1114850#msg1114850
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 11:09:52 pm »
what if this creature is eaten by a 0/3, that becomes a 1/4 after eating it? will this cast the ability as it was casted by a 0/3, a 0/1 or a 0/(infinite) and target a random creature?
or it wont count as "fatal damage" so it will have no effect?

"If Observant Orb|Sphere is killed by a CREATURE, it turns into that creature"

i guess it will turn into that creature, but this effect is hardly predictable by reading the card's text
I see where you got confused.  That brings up a very interesting question.
If an Observant was devoured by a 2|5 Otyugh, should it become a 0|3 Otyugh (turning into the default creature) or a 3|6 Otyugh (inheriting the creatures buffs)?
I'm honestly not sure which it should do.  I'll throw up a poll.

EDIT: completely missed the non-fatal question, that's a good option as well, as it might help balance the card if being devoured does nothing.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2013, 11:11:36 pm by WhitEOuT »

 

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