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Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1118939#msg1118939
« on: January 03, 2014, 05:05:20 am »
NAME:
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TEXT:
:darkness :darkness : Visage - Delay a non-delayed creature for 3 turns. While it is delayed, its owner's weapon becomes a creature.
NAME:
Looking Glass of Souls
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COST:
3 :aether
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:darkness : Visage - Delay a non-delayed creature for 3 turns. While it is delayed, its owner's weapon becomes a creature.

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"Have you ever had a dream… that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world, and the real world?"


Another addition in what will hopefully soon be a series dedicated to making wider use of weapon cards.

The idea should be fairly straightforward, but a few clarifications and odd scenarios came to mind that need commenting (if you can think of others please post)

-After the creature's delay ends, the weapon returns to its owner's hand (not weapon slot)
-If the targeted creature leaves play for any reason the weapon gets returned to the owner's hand.
-If there is no room in the owner's hand, the weapon is lost (the nightmare combo is intentional)
-Enemy creatures CAN be targeted so you can forcibly animate your opponent's weapon
-This card can animate multiple weapons
-If the animated weapon is mutated or otherwise transformed, the transformed creature gets returned.
--If this happens to be a skeleton or mummy, it is treated like a rewind effect


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« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 09:07:36 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1118988#msg1118988
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 04:41:28 pm »
Interesting. It's an Arctic Squid with a better effect, but in duo.

It's an arctic squid with a better effect.

Bump cost to be the same as arctic squid for unupped?

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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1118998#msg1118998
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 06:36:16 pm »
Interesting. It's an Arctic Squid with a better effect, but in duo.

It's an arctic squid with a better effect.

Bump cost to be the same as arctic squid for unupped?
Sounds reasonable. The unupgraded version has been updated.

It is slightly different from squid, however, in that you cannot delay something that is already delayed.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 06:52:57 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119011#msg1119011
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 07:29:04 pm »
Yes, but why would you want to freeze something already frozen? You have some very weird strategies my friend

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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119013#msg1119013
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 07:36:34 pm »
Yes, but why would you want to freeze something already frozen? You have some very weird strategies my friend
Scenario: You have an arctic squid. Your opponent has a frozen Colossal Dragon that has accumulated several turns of overdrive and has 1 round of freeze left on it. They just played 2 otyughs.

Your best bet there is to refreeze the Dragon so that it will die of its overdrive or at least give you a couple more turns to muster some kind of a counter.

I admit, its subtle and situational, but sometimes the fine points of strategy can be important to the utility of a card.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 07:38:20 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119024#msg1119024
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 08:23:31 pm »
Hmmm. Well, I'd gladly lose that situational bonus for--

Wait, no I wouldn't. The secondary effect is too... strange. I have nothing to compare it to.

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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119034#msg1119034
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 09:06:18 pm »
Hmmm. Well, I'd gladly lose that situational bonus for--

Wait, no I wouldn't. The secondary effect is too... strange. I have nothing to compare it to.
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I was hoping to get several versatile uses out of it.
1) It can be used like a squid
2) It lets you disrupt your opponent's weapon (turn it into a creature and kill it or send it back to there hand by doing the same to the creature you targeted)
3) Animate mulitple weapons in exchange for stunning weaker creatures you own (interesting way to deal with dangerous shields?... or an odd titan-a-pult twist).
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 09:08:57 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119037#msg1119037
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2014, 09:14:41 pm »
A bunch has already been said, so mostly what I have left to say is "Interesting..." :p

What if the weapon was frozen or delayed by voodoo/ice bolt?
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119038#msg1119038
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 09:23:29 pm »
Weapons lose frozen or delayed status when animated. (Example: VDB against Divine Glory.)

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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119041#msg1119041
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2014, 09:34:34 pm »
what if somebody the weapon after it's in play? How would the return weapon effect work?
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119043#msg1119043
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2014, 09:49:34 pm »
what if somebody the weapon after it's in play? How would the return weapon effect work?
Interesting point...

The way I was thinking this card would work is to put some kind of a counter on the weapon and a corresponding counter on the stunned creature

By that logic, I suppose the duplicated weapon would receive the same counter and therefore be linked to the stunned creature as well... so both would get returned.

Of course, if there is a good reason to not have it work like that (balancing, thematic, or otherwise) I am certainly open to a different scheme.
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Re: Mirror of Souls | Looking Glass of Souls https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53167.msg1119055#msg1119055
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2014, 11:26:21 pm »
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