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Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg425695#msg425695
« on: November 15, 2011, 08:35:09 am »
NAME:
Master of Ice
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
When a creature is frozen Master of Ice gains +1|+1
:water : Freeze a creature you control
NAME:
Master of Ice
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 3
TEXT:
When a creature is frozen Master of Ice gains +1|+1
:water : Freeze a creature you control
ART:
piepieple
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Originally was going to be called Embodiment of ice but wouldnt fit annoyingly, suggestions welcome!

Supposed to make use of Waters excellent stalling capabilities

Thanks to piepieple for the art, not made for this specifically but its still good!
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg425824#msg425824
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 05:08:40 pm »
I like it. Also because of its obvious SoSac countering capacity.
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg425872#msg425872
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2011, 07:36:01 pm »
Would the freeze on your own creature be the same length of a regular freeze?

Hehe if it's regular length I'm not sure I would try to power up this guy unless I had a lobotomized Fate Egg  ;)
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg425875#msg425875
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2011, 07:47:10 pm »
Quote from: srm359 on November 15, 2011, 07:36:01 pm
Would the freeze on your own creature be the same length of a regular freeze?

Hehe if it's regular length I'm not sure I would try to power up this guy unless I had a lobotomized Fate Egg  ;)
Wow! I didn't realize it also had Catapult synergy! :o
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg425918#msg425918
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 09:47:14 pm »
Sounds fun but isn't he overpriced ? I mean he has very little starting stats and can only freeze your own creature.
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426101#msg426101
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 06:15:59 am »
hmm, well considering how you can freeze a lot of creature with squids and a permafrost shield (and even this) you can amass a decent bit of power quickly, obviously this is made even more dangerous with the stalling you gain from the freezing...

still it might be a bit overpriced though...

What does everyone else think?
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426108#msg426108
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 06:43:01 am »
*grammar nazi approaches*
When a creature is frozen freezes sounds more appropriate.. awesome synergy with :water's CC  :))
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426146#msg426146
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 10:57:54 am »
Quote from: oblivion1212 on November 16, 2011, 06:43:01 am
*grammar nazi approaches*
When a creature is frozen freezes sounds more appropriate.. awesome synergy with :water's CC  :))
Passive sentences are not grammar errors.
"Freezes" sounds like "to freeze" more than "to be freezing." For example, a Squid "freezes" a Lava Golem, but a Lava Golem "is frozen" by a Squid.
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426154#msg426154
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 11:23:47 am »
Quote from: patchx94 on November 16, 2011, 10:57:54 am
Quote from: oblivion1212 on November 16, 2011, 06:43:01 am
*grammar nazi approaches*
When a creature is frozen freezes sounds more appropriate.. awesome synergy with :water's CC  :))
Passive sentences are not grammar errors.
"Freezes" sounds like "to freeze" more than "to be freezing." For example, a Squid "freezes" a Lava Golem, but a Lava Golem "is frozen" by a Squid.
by that, it'd seem like "when a creature is frozen" , which goes that every instance that a creature will freeze, right?
my understanding (probably wasted, but, hey XD) of the original would be that even those creatures before playing this card that are already frozen would've given it stat bonuses... so yeah.. probably wasted.. XD
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426160#msg426160
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 11:33:42 am »
But changing it to "creature freezes" wouldn't mean anything different. A creature freezes because it is frozen. In fact, I reckon more people would think that a "creature freezes" means +1/+1 per turn for each creature frozen than "creature is frozen" means +1/+1 when played for each creature frozen and then +1/+1 for each creature that becomes frozen.
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426164#msg426164
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 11:45:20 am »
ohhhhh... thanks for clarification, sir patch XD
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Re: Master of Ice | Master of Ice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33754.msg426180#msg426180
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 01:06:50 pm »
Quote from: ralouf1 on November 15, 2011, 09:47:14 pm
Sounds fun but isn't he overpriced ? I mean he has very little starting stats and can only freeze your own creature.
Think so:: i'dd say 3 :water or 
4 :water
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