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Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114666#msg1114666
« on: December 11, 2013, 06:35:09 pm »
NAME:
Mask of Empathy
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains +1/+1 for each creature you control.
NAME:
Mask of Bonding
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature gains +2/+2 for each creature you control.

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NOTES:
aggro creature buff

-the buff is updated when creatures enter into play or die

-if this permanent is destroyed, the buff fades

-if this card is stolen, the original target will still get the buff, but the buff will count the number of creatures in the new owner of the card's side

-if parallel universe copies the card with the buff, the new creature will have the same atk/hp the original had when targeted by PU and its atk/hp won't update nor go away if this card is destroyed

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invasion
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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114690#msg1114690
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 09:52:52 pm »
... I take it the effect is on play? Why isn't it a spell then?

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114692#msg1114692
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 10:26:46 pm »
... I take it the effect is on play? Why isn't it a spell then?

because that way, if you destroy the mask, the creature loses the buff

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114694#msg1114694
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 10:32:00 pm »
WAY too OP for the upgraded version. I would let it be the same as the first one but cheaper.
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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114698#msg1114698
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 10:51:55 pm »
Could you stack multiples of these on one creature?

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114700#msg1114700
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 11:30:17 pm »
WAY too OP for the upgraded version. I would let it be the same as the first one but cheaper.

it only affects 1 creature so the card has many limitations that prevent the empowerment: 
-freeze, delay, etc the creature
-having little amount of creatures (or easily kill able ones)
-as this card is a permanent, destroying this permanent will eliminate the buff


Could you stack multiples of these on one creature?

i think being able to stack multiple of these would make the card overpowered

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114710#msg1114710
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 12:00:55 am »
It's not really overpowered.

Let's say: You have ten devourers. (Just go with it.)

With nightfall:

1/3, total 10/30

With eclipse:

2/3, total 20/30

With Mask of Empathy:

0/2 and one 10/12, total 10/30

With Mask of Bonding:

0/2 and one 20/22, total 20/40
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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114713#msg1114713
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2013, 12:32:13 am »
How this would work with PU? Both creatures get the same buff from the same permanent? The copied creature doesn't get the buff? If it gets the buff, what if my opponent has the mask and I PU the creature? Does the buff count my creatures or the opponent ones?
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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114715#msg1114715
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2013, 01:03:27 am »
I'd assume this leaves a status like adrenaline or immaterial.

it's buff would get updated at the end of every turn, just like hope.

Now, with PU, it could either include or exclude the bonus stats from the old one.
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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114720#msg1114720
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2013, 01:17:53 am »
I'd assume this leaves a status like adrenaline or immaterial.

it's buff would get updated at the end of every turn, just like hope.

Now, with PU, it could either include or exclude the bonus stats from the old one.

the buff gets updated every turn, and PU's copy will be an exact copy of the card at the moment, meaning, it will have the buff

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114723#msg1114723
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2013, 01:22:52 am »
That would be pretty hard to program, having a slightly different status for each creature affected by this, since each would be different.

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Re: Mask of Empathy | Mask Of Bonding https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=52823.msg1114727#msg1114727
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2013, 01:59:13 am »
I'd assume this leaves a status like adrenaline or immaterial.

it's buff would get updated at the end of every turn, just like hope.

Now, with PU, it could either include or exclude the bonus stats from the old one.

the buff gets updated every turn, and PU's copy will be an exact copy of the card at the moment, meaning, it will have the buff

The copied buff keeps getting updated then, I assume. It would mean too that if I copy a creature from my opponent the buff depends on how many creatures he has, even though the creature is on my side. Right?
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