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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438370#msg438370
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 11:36:35 pm »
Does it die if there isn't enough to drain?
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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438375#msg438375
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 11:40:49 pm »
Hmmm, currently no. But i would not be apposed to it not growing if their isnt enough quanta.

Maybe something like: If quanta drain is successful gains +0|+1.

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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438389#msg438389
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 11:59:47 pm »
What about adrenaline?
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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438392#msg438392
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 12:05:06 am »
How does adrenalined devourers work?

1 suggestion would be to make it work the same way attack does, use the same drain as if health were attack.

or 2. just have it drain once  regardless of health.

or 3 drain twice but the second drain is a fraction (say half of the first)



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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438404#msg438404
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 12:20:23 am »
How does adrenalined devourers work?

1 suggestion would be to make it work the same way attack does, use the same drain as if health were attack.

or 2. just have it drain once  regardless of health.

or 3 drain twice but the second drain is a fraction (say half of the first)
If adrenaline Lotus worked like adrenaline devouerer then it would drain and gain +0|+1 twice for a result of drain "2xhp+1" and gain +0|+2
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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438408#msg438408
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 12:26:52 am »
I wanted the hp gain to happen at the end of the turn regardless of attack.

It is +0|+1 per turn, not per attack.

If you want they can be considered seperate passives. (I was considering making the hp gain lobotomizable)

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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438413#msg438413
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 12:31:49 am »
I wanted the hp gain to happen at the end of the turn regardless of attack.

It is +0|+1 per turn, not per attack.

If you want they can be considered seperate passives. (I was considering making the hp gain lobotomizable)
Adrenaline gives multiple turns.
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« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 12:40:14 am »
is that how that works? I guess that makes sense. then as the card stands it would be as you pointed out.

hmmmm. could we make it so that it only dains once, but gains 2 hp each turn when under the effect of adrenaline.

aka it grows faster.

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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438431#msg438431
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2011, 12:57:08 am »
is that how that works? I guess that makes sense. then as the card stands it would be as you pointed out.

hmmmm. could we make it so that it only dains once, but gains 2 hp each turn when under the effect of adrenaline.

aka it grows faster.
Yes but it would use a different exception than Devouerer and Venom use.
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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438436#msg438436
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 01:00:03 am »
I would prefer the seperate exception.

Relatedly. does it need a cap on health? or can it be balanced as is?

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Re: Quantum Lotus | Quantum Lotus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34542.msg438438#msg438438
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2011, 01:06:14 am »
I would prefer the seperate exception.

Relatedly. does it need a cap on health? or can it be balanced as is?
Devouerer has a cap at 46 quanta per turn using multiple cards.
Why would this need a cap? Why would it not need a cap?
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« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2011, 05:13:51 am »
when in doubt, add a poll.  ;D

 

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