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Title: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: XYTWO on January 17, 2011, 03:23:30 am
(http://filesmelt.com/dl/Magnifier1.png)
(http://filesmelt.com/dl/MagniUpped1.png)
NAME:
Looking Glass
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
1|2 when flown
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 1 damage at the end of every turn. Deal 3 extra damage if you have a Light or Fire mark.
NAME:
Magnifier
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
2
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
3|2 when flown
TEXT:
Weapon: deal 3 damage at the end of every turn. Deal 4 extra damage if you have a Light or Fire mark.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1005271
IDEA:
XYTWO
NOTES:
Another one of the other "mark" weapons. It has the ranged passive.
If this doesn't make sense to you, think of it this way: the light shines through the glass and focuses on the enemy, burning them.
SERIES:
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: doublecross on January 17, 2011, 03:30:54 am
Yes. I like it.
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Kuroaitou on January 17, 2011, 10:44:47 am
CURATOR COMMENT
-You need to provide a specific link to the page of the card art you used if it's from a website. Putting down 'sxc.hu' is too generic and vague for Curators and other members to figure out where you got your card art from.



Brilliant idea. Simple, but it ultimately makes sense. I don't know if Elements would carry around a Looking Glass, but the fact that you manage to make it similar to Gavel (except with :fire and :light marks) is truly fantastic. :D Well done!
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Bieber4Ever98 on January 17, 2011, 11:34:03 am
I don't agree with Kuroaitou. The only thing good about this card is the conceptual idea of combining  :fire and  :light with a magnifying lens which does not suit a weapon to be in game. The card does not bring any new good strategies to the game.
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: funerallaughter on January 17, 2011, 11:51:18 am
I don't agree with Kuroaitou. This is not a brilliant idea. The only thing good about this card is the conceptual idea of combining  :fire and  :light with a magnifying lens which does not suit a weapon to be in game. The card does not bring any new good strategies to the game.
Actually, I think it adds that extra kick into the Steam Machine decks; there are no weapons within the  :fire  :water  :light card sets which are not quanta exhaustive. Also, mono rush Light anyone? Mono Light is pretty slow as of now. Furthermore, why would you advocate poor Crusader's lack of a Light weapon pairing? :(
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: karis on January 17, 2011, 12:56:42 pm
he can use a short or long sword...  btw....   make crusader swing his magnifier...  (or some thing)  make him look not cool at all....
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Bieber4Ever98 on January 17, 2011, 01:15:36 pm
I don't agree with Kuroaitou. This is not a brilliant idea. The only thing good about this card is the conceptual idea of combining  :fire and  :light with a magnifying lens which does not suit a weapon to be in game. The card does not bring any new good strategies to the game.
Actually, I think it adds that extra kick into the Steam Machine decks; there are no weapons within the  :fire  :water  :light card sets which are not quanta exhaustive. Also, mono rush Light anyone? Mono Light is pretty slow as of now. Furthermore, why would you advocate poor Crusader's lack of a Light weapon pairing? :(
I did'nt tell that it would be a useless card at all, only that it is not something new or creative in terms of gameplay. The idea of a magnifying lens invokes a cool mechanic in mind but i felt this like a copy of gavel or long bow. Any card that is a simple copy of other card be useful in game.

Eg : If i make a card like this, can anyone argue it is useless. Although it is just a cheap rip-off of Eclipse, i can say that this card will strengthen  :fire and  :light combo by providing more hp to  :light creatures which works well with heal and makes  :fire less fragile. Just because you make a cross-breed version of a card already in game, does'nt mean it would be useless but it will be very boring and does not bring anything new to the game. I lack interest in such cards but others might not as it is a matter of personal opinion.


(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd123521/Morning_Sun.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd123522/Blazing_Sun.png)




Anyway, Kuroaitou did'nt saw a mistake in the suggested card, very unusual of him. It says " Deal 1 extra if you have a ", it does not say damage.

Here, is a better stock art that i found while browsing which fits the concept better and looks like weapon art in elements.


(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd123527/Short_Lens.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd123528/Magnifier.png)
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: YoYoBro on January 17, 2011, 01:26:01 pm
I think you should reduce the damage to 1/3 and increase the bonus damage from mark to 2/4. Fits more the theme of a magnifier.
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: XYTWO on January 17, 2011, 06:04:49 pm
I think you should reduce the damage to 1/3 and increase the bonus damage from mark to 2/4. Fits more the theme of a magnifier.
Good idea. I mean, how much damage is hitting someone with a magnifying glass really going to do? :P

CURATOR COMMENT
-You need to provide a specific link to the page of the card art you used if it's from a website. Putting down 'sxc.hu' is too generic and vague for Curators and other members to figure out where you got your card art from.

Brilliant idea. Simple, but it ultimately makes sense. I don't know if Elements would carry around a Looking Glass, but the fact that you manage to make it similar to Gavel (except with :fire and :light marks) is truly fantastic. :D Well done!
Done, and thanks!

@Nik_V (not going to quote, quote pyramids are bleh): First, a few thoughts on your changed version of the card.
1: Short Lens just doesn't sound right. Yeah, this is me being a bit nitpicky, but still.
2: It doesn't look like weapon art to me. Mine doesn't either, but yours seems a bit too normal to me. It's like something you see in everyday life.
3: Thank you for pointing out that missing word.

Yes, it's a copy of Gavel and Longbow. But that doesn't mean it still can't work. Funny thing: a card that's almost EXACTLY like your "Morning Sun" is in the Armory. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8807.0.html
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: YoYoBro on January 17, 2011, 06:12:57 pm
No problem :) and yes, that would've sounded hilarious!
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: rohlfo on January 17, 2011, 06:53:20 pm
erm, think you need to add info about when it has animated weapon cast on it
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: XYTWO on January 17, 2011, 07:02:11 pm
erm, think you need to add info about when it has animated weapon cast on it
Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed. (I chose 2 because, well, it's glass! :P )
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: YoYoBro on January 17, 2011, 07:44:40 pm
Or even 1 HP and reduce the cost :P after all, I mean.. it's a GLASS!
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Pineapple on January 20, 2011, 12:54:43 pm
I think it should say 1|2 and 3|2 in the table for ATK|HP. Not sure, but it wouldn't hurt to change it.
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Kuroaitou on January 20, 2011, 04:12:32 pm
CURATOR COMMENT
-The ATK|HP section of the table needs to correctly use the 'pipe' symbol, '|' to separate the stat values. (It should read '1|2 when flown' instead of '1/2 when flown')

@Nik_V & @patchx94: Yes, a few mistakes may slip by when I try to do this at odd hours, so thanks again for your help. :)
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Flayne on January 20, 2011, 04:33:18 pm
I actually like this idea dues to what was already said,
but instead of a magnifying glass, Why don´t you make it a little more "Fantasy" like,
for example:

Magnifying sword, Description: A sword with a Magnifier on its hilt or in the middle of its thick blade.

Magnifying Staff, Has a large magnifier on its top.

etc.

Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: XYTWO on January 21, 2011, 03:38:28 am
Whoops. XD Well, fixed the error.

I actually like this idea dues to what was already said,
but instead of a magnifying glass, Why don´t you make it a little more "Fantasy" like,
for example:

Magnifying sword, Description: A sword with a Magnifier on its hilt or in the middle of its thick blade.

Magnifying Staff, Has a large magnifier on its top.

etc.
This does sound kinda good, but two things are kinda putting me off this.
1: The rest of the other weapons are pretty ordinary. Compare a huge sword with a magnifying glass in it to a sword, a dagger, a bow, and a hammer.
2: Art.   ;D
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Flayne on January 21, 2011, 03:45:54 am
Whoops. XD Well, fixed the error.

I actually like this idea dues to what was already said,
but instead of a magnifying glass, Why don´t you make it a little more "Fantasy" like,
for example:

Magnifying sword, Description: A sword with a Magnifier on its hilt or in the middle of its thick blade.

Magnifying Staff, Has a large magnifier on its top.

etc.
This does sound kinda good, but two things are kinda putting me off this.
1: The rest of the other weapons are pretty ordinary. Compare a huge sword with a magnifying glass in it to a sword, a dagger, a bow, and a hammer.
2: Art.   ;D
how about a staff with a big Crystal clear ball that can act as as magnifier, that way the look doesn´t go too far off to that of an ordinary staff. how about it?
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Bieber4Ever98 on January 21, 2011, 07:31:04 am
Whoops. XD Well, fixed the error.

I actually like this idea dues to what was already said,
but instead of a magnifying glass, Why don´t you make it a little more "Fantasy" like,
for example:

Magnifying sword, Description: A sword with a Magnifier on its hilt or in the middle of its thick blade.

Magnifying Staff, Has a large magnifier on its top.

etc.
This does sound kinda good, but two things are kinda putting me off this.
1: The rest of the other weapons are pretty ordinary. Compare a huge sword with a magnifying glass in it to a sword, a dagger, a bow, and a hammer.
2: Art.   ;D
how about a staff with a big Crystal clear ball that can act as as magnifier, that way the look doesn´t go too far off to that of an ordinary staff. how about it?
That is a great idea. I think a dagger like weapon with a crystal ball like glass would also do fine.

Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Izzythemachine on January 21, 2011, 08:08:27 am
I'm not an artist by any stretch of the imagination, but if someone changed the crystal ball in this image into a magnifying glass i think it would work. I found the pic on flickr, so im not sure about the copyright stuff...

(http://imageplay.net/m7Gbd125896/4589799973_bde24d6ee7_thumb.jpg) (http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd125896/4589799973_bde24d6ee7)
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Bieber4Ever98 on January 21, 2011, 08:12:22 am
Great find, +1 karma for you.
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: funerallaughter on January 21, 2011, 09:00:10 am
Staff | Magick Staff?

it seems more generic?
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Werdbooty on January 21, 2011, 09:07:12 am
How about a wand? It's not a magnifying glass, but it could retain the synergy.

...and just for funsies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_gun
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: funerallaughter on January 21, 2011, 09:24:40 am
How about a wand? It's not a magnifying glass, but it could retain the synergy.

...and just for funsies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_gun
Well, cause war weapons are fun:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

I enjoy the "non-lethal" weapons; they include a giant flashing thing that you show the enemy which induces seizures X3
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: YoYoBro on January 21, 2011, 01:51:12 pm
Lol, a wand :) with a prysm on it?
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Werdbooty on January 21, 2011, 06:19:08 pm
Prismatic Lens?
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: doublecross on January 22, 2011, 04:37:01 am
Prismatic would mean that it would refract light, the opposite of focusing it...
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: Werdbooty on January 22, 2011, 06:04:49 am
Right  :D
Title: Re: Looking Glass | Magnifier
Post by: YoYoBro on January 22, 2011, 12:42:13 pm
Yep, I meant a lens :)
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