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Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg226934#msg226934
« on: December 18, 2010, 01:01:44 am »
NAME:
Loan Shark
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
8 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7|4
TEXT:
:water : Loan
Generate 2 quantum of your mark.
NAME:
Loan Shark
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
7 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7|4
TEXT:
:water : Loan
Generate 2 quantum of your mark.
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NOTES:
This card has two uses. The first is in mono water. Water happens to be the only element that has a bolt spell but no creature that generates water. Darkness has devoureres for siphon life, and fire has elite fireflies for fire lance.

The second use is for a duo with water but a mark of another element. Water has synergistic cards with aether, air, death, earth, fire, and life. With this card you can use the ability if you need quantum for your other element, or not use it if you need water quantum. It makes duos easier.

Some of you have said that this card is similar to real life and humans. I partly agree, but cards like the horned frog and virus are more realistic. And last time I checked, a shark in sunglasses is not the same as a human.

Well, I hope you like it.
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NAME:
Loan Shark
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
8
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7|4
TEXT:
:water :water : Loan
Generate 3 quantum of your mark.
NAME:
Loan Shark
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
7
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7|4
TEXT:
:water :water : Loan
Generate 3 quantum of your mark.
ART:
RootRanger
IDEA:
RootRanger
NOTES:
Compare its skill to the firefly; nets one quantum each turn. This is harder to create, but it does more damage.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg226938#msg226938
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 01:11:15 am »
0.o

I understand it, but why, exactly? 0.o

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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg226948#msg226948
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 01:18:18 am »
Too related to humanity. Mechanic sounds alright, but .. WHY?
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg226952#msg226952
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 01:21:56 am »
Because he can.

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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg226975#msg226975
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 01:44:19 am »
Well it has two main uses. The first is for mono water. While siphon life is powered by devourers and fire lance is powered by elite fireflies, water doesn't have a creature that generates quantum for ice lance. You can also use it in water duos with a mark that isn't water. If it's in a duo and you need quantum of your mark you can use the ability. If you need water quantum you won't use the ability.

I understand how it is very human-like, but nymphs and guardian angels are just as human.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg227001#msg227001
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 02:11:45 am »
You'll agree with me that nymphs and angels are less realistic than loan sharks and humans.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg227029#msg227029
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 02:48:37 am »
On the other hand, a shark that is also a loan shark is not very realistic...

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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg228261#msg228261
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 02:34:27 pm »
I thought loaning requires the same amount of money plus extra interest to return, so I don't get why you keep on earning.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg228294#msg228294
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 03:11:04 pm »
Yeah, you're right. I'm open to new abilities, but I had a really hard time making the card balanced with some sort of ability that was more like a real loan. The ability would usually end up being useless or OP with multiple sharks. Sacrificing loan shark was more of a fire or death card.

Do you think I should go with something where you gain quantum and sacrifice a pillar? Water has other cards that transform a pillar, so this kind of fits with the theme.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg228298#msg228298
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2010, 03:17:44 pm »
*troll physics face*
Loan shark + water mark = INFINITE QUANTUM!!

I can see it being OP at 7 attack while it can still produce quanta, but that's just my opinion.

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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg228326#msg228326
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2010, 03:57:33 pm »
*troll physics face*
Loan shark + water mark = INFINITE QUANTUM!!

I can see it being OP at 7 attack while it can still produce quanta, but that's just my opinion.
Water mark = Infinite Quantum!

Being able to produce 1 quanta per turn is worth a 0-1 increase in cost greater than the attack+hpvalue.
This card is balanced.

The flavor, well, Loaning has a connection to Loan Sharks which have a slight connection Sharks as Loan Sharks which has a slight connection to Water. It works but fewer steps would be nice.
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Re: Loan Shark | Loan Shark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17795.msg228516#msg228516
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2010, 07:22:09 pm »
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*troll physics face*
Loan shark + water mark = INFINITE QUANTUM!!
Only if the ability repeats, like Rustler.

 

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