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Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg307859#msg307859
« on: April 07, 2011, 11:24:10 pm »
NAME:
Life Avatar
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|1
TEXT:
Plantation: This creature generates a SEED each turn. If killed, turns into a BUD.
NAME:
Bio Avatar
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|2
TEXT:
Plantation: This creature generates a BUD each turn. If killed, turns into a BUD.
ART:
Ignion
IDEA:
Ignion
NOTES:
This is a re-work of my Bio Avatar. The original thread is here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19612.0.html
Now she comes with much more fun and improved skills! Please support![/color]

SERIES:
NAME:
SEED
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|1
TEXT:
:water : Ecolution Turns into a BUD. When this card is destroyed, the player heals + 5 HP.
NAME:
BUD
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
:water : Germination  The BUD gains +1/+1. When this card is destroyed, the player heals + 5 HP.
ART:
Ignion
IDEA:
Ignion
NOTES:
These cards are NOT OBTAINABLE, just like Malignant Cell.
SERIES:
Avatar Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19650.0.html)

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310241#msg310241
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 01:34:48 am »
I think this is a little OP in the healing amount, I suggest lowering it to +5 HP on death for the Seeds|Buds.
Aside from that, I think this is balanced and a cool idea.   :)

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310254#msg310254
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 01:55:13 am »
Nice concept. Really like it but I have to agree the +10 hp upon death is a bit much. + 5 should be fine.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310274#msg310274
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 02:36:36 am »
This could really connect the synergy between Entropy and Life... Fallen Druids+This=Woah.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310286#msg310286
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 03:12:15 am »
Interesting way to promote CC. I also agree about lowering the healing amount
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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310292#msg310292
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 03:17:55 am »
The upgraded Bio Avatar generates a stronger creature, has more health, and less cost to play? No thanks. The upgraded cost needs to be higher. In fact, I think both Avatars need a higher cost, something like 6  :life l 8  :life.

I love the idea though!
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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310310#msg310310
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 03:57:54 am »
Hi, all.

Sorry for the late response. Was Elements' server down? I couldn't access the forum for a while. I just got the notification today.

Also, sorry about the images not loading. I mistakenly set my data host's permission to restricted lol. You should be able to see the images now.

So, just to put my opinion out there also, I don't think this card is OP as is because this is a very difficult card to play. The first turn you summon, its rather useless. No attack power and doesn't do anything. Your opponent's turn comes, and it's still powerless. It can be killed instantly with any damage spell, poison, etc. And, if you manage to keep it alive, the SEED you get also doesn't have any attack power. But, this is just my personal opinion and reason behind the parameters I set. I'm still very much open to everyone's thoughts and voices, so I'll go ahead and lower the healing bonus to +5. Thank you for your feedback  :)

I'm not so sure about Avatar's costs, even though I very much appreciate Noobiecakes' feedback. Can I hear more voices on this? I don't want to make them too high because afterall, this is a very fragile creature that can be killed instantly. I don't think its cost should be similar or greater than powerful ones like Phoenix.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310324#msg310324
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 04:46:46 am »
I'm gonna play OldTrees here for a bit on the cost issue.

Cost =  Attack power + Skill cost(active + passive) + HP(0-5 free +1 per upto each 5 points after) + Element bonus + Upgreaded(if uped)

unuped

Attack P = 0
Skill cost = 5(based on FireFly Queens break down)(FFQ's skill is worth 3 because it's off element and cost)
Hit points = 0
Ele Bonus = -1 (Life creatures are 1 cheaper)
so finial cost for unuped is 4

uped

Attack P = 0
Skill cost = 6(it gives a stronger creature with each turn so +1 cost other wise same as above)
Hit points = 0
Ele bonus = -1
Upgrade bonus = -1
so finial cost for uped is 4


So based on current standing 4 :life | 4 :life

Cost with this card really depends on what you this the Skill cost should be worth.

Now enough of me chaneling OldTrees.
I think the the Seed | Bud skill should be  a Pay to generate like FFQ's (only with  :water) and the cost cheaper as it really is a weak creature skill aside. Overpowered this creature is not.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg310331#msg310331
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 05:13:03 am »
OK. So, here is what I did.

- I lowered the healing bonus from 10 HP to 5 HP for both SEED and BUD

- I swapped the cost for Life and Bio Avatars (before Life was 6 and Bio was 5). Now Life is 5 and Bio is 6. I figured Noobiecakes had a good point that stronger reward should require more, not less. (thanks for the input).

I hope they are more balanced now. Please let me know if anyone sees anything else that may need modification. If not, I'll proceed to submit this to Crucible.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg314811#msg314811
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 04:33:25 pm »
CURATOR COMMENT:
-The upgraded card image appears to be broken, please fix it so that Curators may correctly and fully review your card for crucible.
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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg315504#msg315504
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 05:06:48 pm »
I don't think it's broken. It's working just fine as far as I can see. Did you try refreshing browser? I noticed that some of the pages on this forum have been needing some push at times (not sure if it's related to the recent server issues?). If you still see any issues, let me know because I can't see anything wrong with it.

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Re: Life Avatar | Bio Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24101.msg321930#msg321930
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 04:40:30 pm »
Life avatar is now in crucible. Please support this card  :)

 

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