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Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg381859#msg381859
« on: August 18, 2011, 11:30:17 pm »
NAME:
Leviathan
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
:water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 1
TEXT:
Gains + 0 | + 2 while underwater.
When Leviathan Spawn dies, all of your creatures gain + 0 | + 2.
NAME:
Leviathan Spawn
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
:water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 1
TEXT:
Gains + 1 | + 1 while underwater.
When Leviathan Spawn dies, all your creatures gain + 1 | + 1.
ART:
Hawanja
IDEA:
Zblader
NOTES:
Wikipedia Article on Leviathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan)
A sort of polar opposite to Phoenix. Leviathan's flesh is said to be given to the righteous when the end of the world comes, hence the boost effect when it dies.
Underwater refers to any space on the field that is affected by Flooding.
SERIES:
NAME:
Leviathan
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
:water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 1
TEXT:
Leviathan Spawn cannot be targeted by Fire cards.
When Leviathan Spawn dies, all creatures gain + 0 | + 2.
NAME:
Leviathan Spawn
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
:water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 1
TEXT:
Leviathan Spawn cannot be targeted by Fire cards.
When Leviathan Spawn dies, all creatures gain + 1 | + 1.
ART:
Hawanja
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Wikipedia Article on Leviathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan)
A sort of polar opposite to Phoenix. Leviathan's flesh is said to be given to the righteous when the end of the world comes, hence the boost effect when it dies.
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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg381878#msg381878
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 12:28:21 am »
That's a pretty cool idea, but I think the two effects have poor synergy.  You -want- this creature to die most of the time, especially the upped one, and fire cards often help this process take place.  The beneficial death effect essentially gives it immunity to fire cards anyway (and several cards from other elements) because nobody will want to kill it very often.  Depending on your creativity, I'd take the protection from fire ability and put that on one card, and use the death effect for another card, and rework this one slightly.  Keep the ideas though; both are good, they just don't fit well together, kind of like a Spark with devour ability.  (which fallen druid gave me once...)

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg381881#msg381881
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 12:36:38 am »
That's a pretty cool idea, but I think the two effects have poor synergy.  You -want- this creature to die most of the time, especially the upped one, and fire cards often help this process take place.  The beneficial death effect essentially gives it immunity to fire cards anyway (and several cards from other elements) because nobody will want to kill it very often.  Depending on your creativity, I'd take the protection from fire ability and put that on one card, and use the death effect for another card, and rework this one slightly.  Keep the ideas though; both are good, they just don't fit well together, kind of like a Spark with devour ability.  (which fallen druid gave me once...)
I think that's a pretty fair point, after looking at the possible synergies this could have with other cards.

Changed the effect to something more fitting.

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg381908#msg381908
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 01:33:35 am »
I like the range of uses this has.
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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg381983#msg381983
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 03:54:37 am »
I like the similarity yet difference compared to phoenix.
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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382017#msg382017
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 07:04:25 am »
if unupped has more hp and low cost......     

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382140#msg382140
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 04:05:06 pm »
if unupped has more hp and low cost......     
What? If anything, more HP would give it a higher cost, as well as weaken it's effect.

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382143#msg382143
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 04:13:09 pm »
i like the new passive more, i think ive seen a similar mechanic elsewhere, but it is really the baby brother of the two mechanics here so its not a big deal.

when you say all creatures, do you mean for both players, or limit it just yours?  it may be a tad odd to have situations come up where the opponent would benefit more from killing this creature than the owner (aside from removing its from play, that is).
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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382153#msg382153
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 04:39:35 pm »
i like the new passive more, i think ive seen a similar mechanic elsewhere, but it is really the baby brother of the two mechanics here so its not a big deal.

when you say all creatures, do you mean for both players, or limit it just yours?  it may be a tad odd to have situations come up where the opponent would benefit more from killing this creature than the owner (aside from removing its from play, that is).
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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382213#msg382213
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 07:03:59 pm »
but lower it atk....   i'm thinking about  :water :gravity    or   this card with rage potion

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg382225#msg382225
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2011, 07:29:44 pm »
but lower it atk....   i'm thinking about  :water :gravity    or   this card with rage potion
You'd need multiples of these to get an Acceleration or Gravity Pull combo running. Same goes for Rage Potion.
It's no stronger than Phoenix is.

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Re: Leviathan | Leviathan Spawn https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30029.msg385339#msg385339
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2011, 01:15:44 pm »
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