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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1134261#msg1134261
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2014, 08:26:40 am »
If i put quint and SOW on this and equip a mirror shield, will it deal double damage to the opponent?
I suppose so. But if you put antimatter both get healed.
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1134262#msg1134262
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2014, 08:27:39 am »
The mechanic is very interesting, and it fits well in fire. However the theme, imo, does not. Fire is not about balance, it's about power and passion and glass cannons and inbalance. The theme fits the mechanic though, so you could just move it to water (or potentially light, or earth, or gravity, which are all about stability) which, as the opposite of fire, is about balance, and keep both theme and mechanic. However, if kept in fire, I would suggest that you change the name to something like "Knight of Passion/Power" or "Berserker" which, thematically, fits better in Fire. But, as I said, the mechanic does really well in fire and it's interesting - especially with all the combos it would produce to get around the double-edged sword of this nature, so great work :)
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199514#msg1199514
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2015, 02:41:42 pm »
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This card will not be permitted to the Crucible due to one ore more of the following errors:

  • Card cost doesn't match with the value listed in the table (just 3 implies any quanta can be used, like AW or Luciferace)


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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199517#msg1199517
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2015, 03:37:03 pm »
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199530#msg1199530
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2015, 05:14:32 pm »
To buff or not to buff. To compensate with the drawback, you should also play healing, poison, or vampire mechanic. Though maybe the drawback can be negated with Liquid Shadow. Being said, I think this card is bad in a mono :fire deck.
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199764#msg1199764
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2015, 04:41:57 pm »
Why would I use this?

I'd need healing to use this card at all. Sure, there is a low quanta cost for this card and there are high stats, but this creature deals damage to me every time it attacks, and in an element such as fire where there is no healing, that really is a hindrance to my well being. I'd need to run 6x Sanctuaries just to use 4x EquiKnights. So, why would I use this card? At all?

Edit: Especially that upgraded version. I have Minor Phoenix and Micro Abomination as substitutes that I could use instead of this card.

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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199776#msg1199776
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2015, 06:35:05 pm »
Maybe you would not use this card but I most certainly would. Yes, you can combo it with healing and maybe with shields but consider also the fact that a fire rush plans to win as quickly as possible. In the vast majority of situations, it doesn't care what its own health is. A 6|6 for 3|2 is highly efficient and opens the deck up to running rage potion for even greater efficiency. A few phoenixes or dragons ontop or even just firebolts should be enough to make sure your opponent dies first.

There is, however, one problem with this card and that is that it enables draws, something EtG has never had before and may or may not know how to cope with.

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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199777#msg1199777
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 06:41:43 pm »
EtG can have "draws" with UG+Reflective+Voodoo or similar. I am not sure exactly what happens, but it's nothing new. It will basically depend on how the ability is coded, but one of the player has to die first (and judgind by card text, it should be opponent, since it implies the self-damage is right after the actual attack).
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1199792#msg1199792
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 08:04:54 pm »
Let us consider the Rush usage of this card for a moment.

Theoretically I can out damage my opponent in the early game at the cost of being out damaged in the mid game. This is the whole concept of a rusk strategy. During this portion where I am out damaging my opponent, I don't care about damage I sustain so long as my opponent is damaged more on average. So my rush tools include short term out damaging effects and ways to move the goal closer at the cost of my own hp. To put this in more concrete terms:

Ball Lightning + Cremation + Knight(2 :fire) + Lava Destroyer(5 :fire + Earth Mark)
That is 4 cards(and my mark) to deal 85 damage in the first 5 turns while I suffer 30 damage from myself and whatever my opponent can muster in the first 5 turns. If I can deal 15 damage in 7 cards faster than my opponent can deal 70 damage in 11 cards then I win.

In the oversimplified unrealistic case where I got 2 Knights and 2 Lava Destroyers(plus :earth) on the first turn and nothing else all game:
I would deal 80 damage in 3 turns and 108 damage in 4 turns all while suffering 36-48 damage + whatever my opponent can muster in the first 3-4 turns. While this second example is unrealistic(Drawing 4 pairs) it does highlight just how fast the strategy will rip thorough both life totals.

So the "low cost, high attack, also damages controller" card is a very good fit for Fire and for rush decks provided the balance(see 15 in 7 vs 70 in 11 example above) is appropriately tweaked.

However I think the comparison to Minor Phoenix 4 :fire|2 :fire is enough to show that this card is currently underpowered.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 08:14:01 pm by OldTrees »
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Re: Knight of equilibrium l Knight of equilibrium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54348.msg1200231#msg1200231
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2015, 01:11:40 am »
It also has fairly high health for a fire creature.
yeah, weird to see such a high health fire creature.

i do like the rush style of Knight of equilibrium
even if it means sacrificing yourself.

 

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