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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg86317#msg86317
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2010, 04:57:43 am »
at first i was like "wtf... is this supposed to be a joke?" after seeing 'kidnap monster in a PLASTIC BAG."

never thought plastic bag can actually be a monster. i like the originality.
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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg86430#msg86430
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2010, 12:07:31 pm »
I think its definitely OP.

Look not only are you paying 10 or 13 quantum, the other person is getting those in return. That is like a supernova or something. And it only costs 4??? If I an elite oty for 5, it is going to cost me 10 more to get it back? Reverse time is the closest comparison and it would only cost the price of the creature again, forgetting that the opponent actually gets the quantum in return.

I think you need to lower the release cost. Only a rainbow deck will be able to afford this and i just think it is unfair to give 10 or 13 quantum to the opponent. I say lower it to 5 and 8 or something.

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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg86450#msg86450
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2010, 01:10:43 pm »
Not OP. It is more expensive than rewind and won't deny the opponent of his next card in row.
If you think it doesn't worth the 10 quanta, don't pay the ransom, it won't hinder you as much as an unplayable big card in hand as a result of rewind.

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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg87270#msg87270
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2010, 03:28:18 am »
Quote from: wizelsnarf link=topic=7233.msg94141#msg94141 =1276085251
I think its definitely OP.

Look not only are you paying 10 or 13 quantum, the other person is getting those in return. That is like a supernova or something. And it only costs 4??? If I an elite oty for 5, it is going to cost me 10 more to get it back? Reverse time is the closest comparison and it would only cost the price of the creature again, forgetting that the opponent actually gets the quantum in return.

I think you need to lower the release cost. Only a rainbow deck will be able to afford this and i just think it is unfair to give 10 or 13 quantum to the opponent. I say lower it to 5 and 8 or something.
Most mono decks with 3 or more pillars on the field will be able to pay the ransom within the 3 turns easily. But the question is.. are you willing to pay for it?

Scenario 1: Charger gets kidnapped, you wait 3 turns and let it die
Scenario 2: 20/15 golem gets kidnapped :) now what chief? The choice is in your hands

And note: the released creature is EXACTLY the same as when before it got kidnapped, so any buffs WILL be kept after release. Unlike rewind, which completely resets the creature. (This also costs a lot more to cast)

AND the quantum paid is NOT converted to darkness (although i'm thinking of making it so), so the Kidnap user may not even have a use for those quanta

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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg87279#msg87279
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2010, 03:35:16 am »
I mean if you have pests and 6 of these you can pretty much shut down any deck. You would either be rolling in quanta or shut down all of the enemy creatures.

What if playing the card cost like 1 more?

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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg89662#msg89662
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2010, 07:42:35 pm »
i like the idea aswell and i really think darkness needs the cards but..im against this the same reason im against voodoo doll...its too dark, frightnening, macabre-take your pick.
Change the names the ideas fine though. does anyone see what im getting at?

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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg90514#msg90514
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2010, 06:28:44 pm »
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Re: Kidnap | Abduct https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7233.msg92925#msg92925
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2010, 01:53:51 am »
Kidnap is now in the crucible!!! Cast your votes nao! :)

 

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