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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg510552#msg510552
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2012, 04:39:08 pm »
nova->nova->nova->nightmare->lighting->interrogate  :o :o :o 

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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg510796#msg510796
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2012, 05:28:17 am »
Silly sdaw, you need a few more darkness for that :P
But yeah, this card was made before Singularity, so I haven't been able to change it for balancing against Singularity. :(

We can say that Singularities are so weird that Interrogate doesn't affect it :P

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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530239#msg530239
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2012, 02:12:08 pm »
OP OP OP OP OP! Even if it's OP. You can make one other synergy withouth nightmare,precogs. etc.
You can add this ability : Gain one or two  :darkness for each card played then you use n'ghtmare!!!
« Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 02:14:00 pm by Luminous »
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530255#msg530255
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2012, 03:13:49 pm »
OP OP OP OP OP! Even if it's OP. You can make one other synergy withouth nightmare,precogs. etc.
You can add this ability : Gain one or two  :darkness for each card played then you use n'ghtmare!!!
Please explain why. If the author found it obviously OP they would have changed it before your comment. Therefore what you see is not obvious to the author. Therefore you need to explain why you see it as OP when you make comments like this.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530264#msg530264
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2012, 04:15:01 pm »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530286#msg530286
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2012, 05:40:09 pm »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530295#msg530295
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 05:57:09 pm »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530303#msg530303
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2012, 06:07:21 pm »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
Um? The opponent does not lose any quanta. They would gain quanta if they had Towers, Immolations or Novas in their hand.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530566#msg530566
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2012, 07:08:30 am »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
Um? The opponent does not lose any quanta. They would gain quanta if they had Towers, Immolations or Novas in their hand.
Opponent does not lose,you missed the point. You sacrifice 3 :darkness , as an example think opponent has 4 burning towers and 3 phoenixes in his hand,he can play 21 :fire for free,and will gain 4 :fire that turn. So, 3 :darkness exchanges to 25 :fire even that :fire is opponent's.
By the way,if he has immolation in hand,he HAS to immolate one creature,right? If he has no creatures in hand or on field,it may cause some bugs. What happens then ? Just gain the quanta and lose the card or what ?
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530595#msg530595
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2012, 08:22:39 am »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
Um? The opponent does not lose any quanta. They would gain quanta if they had Towers, Immolations or Novas in their hand.
Opponent does not lose,you missed the point. You sacrifice 3 :darkness , as an example think opponent has 4 burning towers and 3 phoenixes in his hand,he can play 21 :fire for free,and will gain 4 :fire that turn. So, 3 :darkness exchanges to 25 :fire even that :fire is opponent's.
By the way,if he has immolation in hand,he HAS to immolate one creature,right? If he has no creatures in hand or on field,it may cause some bugs. What happens then ? Just gain the quanta and lose the card or what ?
So in this example the for 3 :darkness the Opponent gets the benefit of ~25 :fire (21 ignored cost and 4 generated).
How was this OP again?
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530599#msg530599
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2012, 08:49:23 am »
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
Um? The opponent does not lose any quanta. They would gain quanta if they had Towers, Immolations or Novas in their hand.
Opponent does not lose,you missed the point. You sacrifice 3 :darkness , as an example think opponent has 4 burning towers and 3 phoenixes in his hand,he can play 21 :fire for free,and will gain 4 :fire that turn. So, 3 :darkness exchanges to 25 :fire even that :fire is opponent's.
By the way,if he has immolation in hand,he HAS to immolate one creature,right? If he has no creatures in hand or on field,it may cause some bugs. What happens then ? Just gain the quanta and lose the card or what ?
So in this example the for 3 :darkness the Opponent gets the benefit of ~25 :fire (21 ignored cost and 4 generated).
How was this OP again?
:death = :entropy = :earth they are all same. 1 :fire = :darkness ,this card breaks that plus with other cards,like nightmare,neuro counters,exchanges 3 :darkness for damage,though. So,shouldn't it be OP ? Quanta -> more quanta and cards plus HP with some neurotoxin.
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Re: Interrogate | Interrogate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35494.msg530655#msg530655
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2012, 03:06:29 pm »
1. Spells are not played, so Immolation will stay in the hand. This also means that you are not guaranteed an empty enemy hand after an Interrogate.

2.
Isn't it obvious ?
It exchanges 3 :darkness quanta to possible many :rainbow quanta plus potentially HP + Neurotoxin with some backup.
Huh? Where are you seeing the  :rainbow?
Yes it does empty the opponents hand so Neurotoxin will increase by ~4 and Nightmare would get the full 16 drain life.
It also lets the Opponent play their cards for free.
Reasonable sacrifice. About :rainbow , i was saying opponent's quanta.
Um? The opponent does not lose any quanta. They would gain quanta if they had Towers, Immolations or Novas in their hand.
Opponent does not lose,you missed the point. You sacrifice 3 :darkness , as an example think opponent has 4 burning towers and 3 phoenixes in his hand,he can play 21 :fire for free,and will gain 4 :fire that turn. So, 3 :darkness exchanges to 25 :fire even that :fire is opponent's.
By the way,if he has immolation in hand,he HAS to immolate one creature,right? If he has no creatures in hand or on field,it may cause some bugs. What happens then ? Just gain the quanta and lose the card or what ?
So in this example the for 3 :darkness the Opponent gets the benefit of ~25 :fire (21 ignored cost and 4 generated).
How was this OP again?
:death = :entropy = :earth they are all same. 1 :fire = :darkness ,this card breaks that plus with other cards,like nightmare,neuro counters,exchanges 3 :darkness for damage,though. So,shouldn't it be OP ? Quanta -> more quanta and cards plus HP with some neurotoxin.

OP means overpowered, and "overpowered" means that using the card gives you a significant advantage over your opponent. The fact that this card allows your opponent to save quanta should not be a factor for it being overpowered because that effect does not give you a significant advantage over your opponent. On the contrary, that effect gives you a significant disadvantage over your opponent.

 

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