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Title: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 12:34:41 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/ZFOhU.png)	(http://i.imgur.com/E6twK.png)
NAME: Insanity ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 4 :darkness TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature has a 50% chance to attack its owner.	NAME: Insanity ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 5 :darkness TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature has a 75% chance to attack its owner.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1183862 IDEA: drNovikov NOTES: SERIES: Death and Darkness :death :darkness (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,44579.msg1013886.html)

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: rickerd on November 07, 2012, 12:36:12 pm

It's not the first time this kind of cards are introduced to the forum.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 12:41:35 pm

Is it a bad idea?

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: rickerd on November 07, 2012, 12:43:41 pm

dunno, but there are already alot of them.
Is the effect for 1 turn?

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 12:45:47 pm

No, not for 1 turn. Once the creature is cursed with this spell, it loses it's mind completely. Probably, 'Purify' could heal it.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: rickerd on November 07, 2012, 12:51:38 pm

Then, I quess a little more cost should make it more balanced.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 01:08:13 pm

I compare it to the 'Reverse Time' which banishes creature to the deck just for 2 :time. An extremely effective spell which removes creatures and makes enemy loose quanta.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: choongmyoung on November 07, 2012, 01:14:44 pm

50% chance to attack its owner = "health different" is same with instakill, so this is somehow overpowered.
75% chance to attack its owner = even greater.

I see both 50% and cost to 5|4 ~ 4|3. Think of AM.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 01:19:55 pm

I increased the costs. Opinions? Now its cost is big enough, so maybe player will summon his own creature for the same amount of quanta.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: Rutarete on November 07, 2012, 03:40:07 pm

There's an entropy shield that did this, but I can't find the link at the moment. I believe it was the idea factory's mind card.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: Drake_XIV on November 07, 2012, 03:43:07 pm

Redundant idea in respect of other card ideas.

Compare to Liquid Antimatter.  This does not have the cost of the target creature dying due to poison and is much cheaper.  I feel the 50% chance does not justify this.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 03:57:24 pm

Should I increase the percentage?

Also, please, notice that under the Nightfall percentage is 75%.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: Drake_XIV on November 07, 2012, 04:15:20 pm

Quote from: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 03:57:24 pm

Should I increase the percentage?

Also, please, notice that under the Nightfall percentage is 75%.

Notice where?  It's not in the TEXT or NOTES.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 04:34:39 pm

Sorry, my mistake. I was thinking about Despair | Crushing Despair (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,44569.msg1013744.html)

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 04:50:09 pm

What if we add +25% under the Nightfall | Eclipse? So it becomes 75% / 100%?

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: rickerd on November 07, 2012, 05:22:52 pm

You make it only stronger....
It is already OP
decrease %
Increase cost

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 11:37:14 pm

I don't think it is OP. Reverse Time -- an instant removal of strong creature just for 2 :time is probably OP.

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: choongmyoung on November 08, 2012, 04:24:46 am

Quote from: drNovikov on November 07, 2012, 11:37:14 pm

I don't think it is OP. Reverse Time -- an instant removal of strong creature just for 2 :time is probably OP.

And opponent can play it again.
IF your opponent play it again, RT has no effect at all. (except 1 turn draw denial and cost)

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: drNovikov on November 08, 2012, 09:47:51 am

Quote from: choongmyoung on November 08, 2012, 04:24:46 am

IF your opponent play it again, RT has no effect at all. (except 1 turn draw denial and cost)

1 turn draw denial and the cost is a lot!

Title: Re: Insanity | Madness
Post by: OldTrees on November 08, 2012, 11:49:37 am

Quote from: drNovikov on November 08, 2012, 09:47:51 am

Quote from: choongmyoung on November 08, 2012, 04:24:46 am

IF your opponent play it again, RT has no effect at all. (except 1 turn draw denial and cost)

1 turn draw denial and the cost is a lot!

The point was that RT is not an instant removal since it is not permanent.


Anyways, this card should be compared with cards that negate the attack strength of a creature. Antimatter is the prime example of 100% negation and 100% healing. Insanity is X% negation and X% damage. Damaging the opponent is more valuable than healing so a 100% Insanity would cost more than Antimatter. Insanity is not 100% so it would cost proportionately less.