Innocent | Martyr

[Ryan666]

Okay so I want to start by say thing that the whole thought of the card and how the ability works is amazing. The way you combined those two cards, Guardian Angel and Arch angel, with Innocent and Martyr is fantastic, no joke. I love it.

Second of all, the card art is great and really paints a picture of what the card is and how it works.

Third of all, you are correct and i think that this card can be a part of many decks, using immo, lighting and various killing spells. Though i feel as if the life should be only 2 so that it becomes more versatile, for Otyugh and all bolts to be able to kill it. Also, i think that the cost of the Martyr should be just a little higher because i think it is all too easy to get the Arch Angel out. 2 SN + 1 Lighting = Arch Angel. So i think the cost of the Martyr should be 5. The Innocent card is only one lower than the Gaurdian Angel so I think the Martyr should be like that too.

Overall, great card, i love the thought into the card and I hope it does well later on in votes.

[Drobbit]

Thanks! I'm very glad to see that you like it. I decided to put the 3 hp to make it not so easy to "transform". In return, the cost of the innocent is just two and a quintescence on the martyr keeps it to be target and from more obvious forms of killing it. But I'll think about what you said.

Again: thanks for your words.
If you want also to help, I have more cards (quantum pirate serie) that are still in preparation.

[jippy99]

Brilliant card idea.  It is unique in the sense that you are trying to kill it, unlike your normal creature, which you are trying to keep alive.  I love the new concept and commend you for thinking of it.  This is a totally new aspect and I think it is great.  I believe that both cards are priced accordingly, and stats for both could maybe be 0/+1 to make it a little harder to kill.  One question I have is if the martyr with 3 health gets hit with a shockwave, does the extra damage point carry over to the archangel? This would definitely create many new combos and synergies.  Immolation rushes will absolutely love martyr, with it generating the quanta from immolation and becoming a 7 attack creature in the process.  A gravity/light duo where the martyr is gravity pulled, then turned into an angel and armagios come out and stall with the angel healing is a good deck with this.  You could also have a liquid shadow deck with this by siphon lifing the martyr to make it a angel.  This also opens up options with light/death, using either bonewalls, graveyards, or soul catchers to fuel more death quanta.  The possibilities with this card are endless.  Great job with this.

[Drobbit]

Yeah, you resumed it very well. There are many loving combinations with this card.
I think that if you shokwave the martyr, even if the damage is above 3hp, the dying effect goes after all the damage is dealt. So it won't pass to the archangel.

I also have another creature in the forge called Tomb | Grave (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14278.0.html) that could be a great combo with it.
Grave becomes the first creature to die, so you can use it with Martyr this way: play Grave and Martyr, immolate Martyr (it becomes an archangel), Grave becomes a Martyr and start again. You could pay the Grave with the Soul Catcher. And also there is another card I did called Fiddlers Green here in the light crucible, that can bless the archangel (because Grave is not targetable).

Thanks for your words.