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Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67684#msg67684
« on: May 12, 2010, 06:52:09 pm »
NAME:
Immanence
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
8 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Until the end of your turn, each time you cast a spell with a cost greater than zero, create a duplicate of that spell on top of your library.  At the end of your turn, draw all such cards.
NAME:
Transcendence
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Until the end of your turn, each time you cast a spell with a cost greater than zero, create a duplicate of that spell on top of your library.  At the end of your turn, draw all such cards.
ART:
Hadley Danielson (Ess' Wife)
IDEA:
Essence
NOTES:
For the Epic Contest.
If you cast more than seven spells during your turn, the extras are still created on your library, they're just not drawn. 
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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67689#msg67689
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 06:57:25 pm »
This is ridiculously strong with bolt spells.  *edit* misread, the first part there still applies, strong with bolt spells.

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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67701#msg67701
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2010, 07:15:38 pm »
This is ridiculously strong with bolt spells.  *edit* misread, the first part there still applies, strong with bolt spells.
My thoughts exactly.  Play this card, then 4 fire lances.  Next turn, 7 more lances?  That's 12+21 damage minimum.  But if :fire >20, you could do 36+63.  Whoa!  OP.
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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67708#msg67708
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2010, 07:21:00 pm »
Not just bolts but imagine grabbing a bunch of unstoppables (momentums) for those dragons you just played, yikes.

Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67709#msg67709
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 07:22:54 pm »
Am I misreading this?  If you play 4 lances, that means you would get 4 additional lances... not 7.  It would potentially (perfect drawing scenario) allow you to play 6 fire lances and then 6 more the next turn though.  The fact that you can have RoL to generate enough  :light for this card and then use cremation to convert them to  :fire for your lances is just mean.  Works with drain life to a lesser extent, and ice bolt a bit less than that even. 

Also, just thought about using this with heal.  Lots of HP gain there.  Good for mass creature control (rewind or congeal... or double up on the number of times you can congeal/shockwave a big enemy).  Or it could guarantee two turns of survival if you use a Miracle and have a lot of  :light towers/RoL out.  Lots of potential, but I think the fire bolt scenario is the only one that could really make it OP. 

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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67789#msg67789
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 09:36:03 pm »
The RoL -> Immanance -> Cremation -> Lance combo is a bit brutal.   I'll futz around with it and see if I can come up with a decent fix.  :)
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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67845#msg67845
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 10:48:52 pm »
what if the cards just stayed on your deck? itd give you some control for what you would draw with having some power yet not too overpowered

then you could lower cost to 6/5

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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67867#msg67867
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 11:14:22 pm »
I like the creative way of using the art. Very nice.

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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67884#msg67884
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2010, 11:43:22 pm »
Thanks, SG.  You just made my wife's day.  She was rather upset that some people took the mask to be a brassiere, so now she feels redeemed.  :)
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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg67897#msg67897
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 12:07:14 am »
I really like this card.  I don't think it's really all that overpowered either...

Meh.  I foresee problems with this and cremation, but those issues aren't ones I can see an easy fix for.

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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg68887#msg68887
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 12:38:07 am »
Fixed: zero-cost spells are not duplicated with Transcendence.  Also prevents Nova and Holy Flash abuse!  8)
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Re: Immanence | Transcendence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6495.msg70079#msg70079
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 03:36:05 pm »
Thanks, SG.  You just made my wife's day.  She was rather upset that some people took the mask to be a brassiere, so now she feels redeemed.  :)
Please extend my sincerest apologies to your wife for me.  It's a very nice design.  I honestly meant no offense.  Sometimes I just type the first thing that pops into my head (and in this case, I was concerned it might pop into other people's too.)
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