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Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190636#msg190636
« on: November 01, 2010, 11:40:35 pm »
NAME:
Ice Behemoth
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
9|7
TEXT:
Brittle: Dies when specifically targeted.
NAME:
Ice Behemoth
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
5 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
12|7
TEXT:
Brittle: Dies when specifically targeted.
ART:
Art by Fotosynthesis

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NOTES:
Ice Behemoth dies when targeted by anything, whether or not it would otherwise be positive. In other words, targeting it with heal or quintessense will kill it.

Shields do not target, so fire and thorn shield won't instantly kill Ice Behemoth. Plague, Rain of Fire, Thunderstorm and Pandemonium don't target either.

If targeted with fractal, it will die without giving copies. If targeted with reverse time, it will die instead of going the top of the deck.

Basically, anytime a red targeting reticle appears over Behemoth and you click it, it dies.
SERIES:
Big creatures with drawbacks theme.
This card's optimum stats/cost are open for discussion.

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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190639#msg190639
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 11:47:12 pm »
Hmm, I suppose that since Mummy is turned to Pharaoh when targeted by Rewind that this card would also be destroyed rather than be returned to the top of the deck (meaning that creature abilities take priority over spells), right?
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190641#msg190641
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 11:50:12 pm »
Hmm, I suppose that since Mummy is turned to Pharaoh when targeted by Rewind that this card would also be destroyed rather than be returned to the top of the deck (meaning that creature abilities take priority over spells), right?
Yes it would die as opposed to go to the top of the deck. Note added.

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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190653#msg190653
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 11:59:24 pm »
An interesting choice. This means, a minor creature, such as a bloodsucker, would easily destroy a creature like that. In that case, I'd like to see if this stands up to the algorithm. Phantom Fox says that quanta cost is determined mostly by attack, which would be 9, and since it's health is over 5, it also adds 1. So, does it's ability really reduce the cost by 5? I'd say 3 tops, so, reduce the health by 2, and that brings it down to a total cost of 6. I'm not sure what the final reduction would be, but if push comes to shove, you might want to set up the unupped as 6.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190673#msg190673
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 12:13:02 am »
How about if you lobotomize it? What do you mean by targeted? Do you mean that even if it is non-damage related (e.g. blessing), it would die too?
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190679#msg190679
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 12:15:24 am »
If it is targeted by anything, from Infection to Holy Light to Gravity Pull to Mutation, it will be destroyed on the spot.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190682#msg190682
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 12:17:11 am »
How about if you lobotomize it? What do you mean by targeted? Do you mean that even if it is non-damage related (e.g. blessing), it would die too?
Targeted meaning that if a card effect produces a giant red target above the card before selected, then it will be destroyed.  So yes, non-damaging = death too.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190687#msg190687
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 12:18:47 am »
So, thunderstorm and RoF can't kill it right? Because it doesn't have this big red dot thingy.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190690#msg190690
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2010, 12:20:50 am »
Ah, but Immaterial things can't be targeted, and they aren't affected by Thunderstorm either. It would appear anything like Rain of Fire or Plague counts as a targeting card, since the converse is that Immaterial creature which cannot be targeted aren't affected by things like Plague.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190695#msg190695
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2010, 12:22:33 am »
So, thunderstorm and RoF can't kill it right? Because it doesn't have this big red dot thingy.
Shields do not target, so fire and thorn shield won't instantly kill Ice Behemoth. Plague and Rain of Fire don't target either
Naturally this means thunderstorm can be added to the list.
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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190696#msg190696
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2010, 12:25:37 am »
I believe plague, RoF, and thunderstorm work by targeting every creature individually and automatically.
I could be wrong though.

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Re: Ice Behemoth | Ice Behemoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14972.msg190704#msg190704
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2010, 12:29:21 am »
and Pandemonium?

 

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