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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319752#msg319752
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 07:45:27 pm »
I think this (well, hope) this would give Turquoise nymph more use. Although in a stall this could become a complete game winner ( :aether nymph or anubis stall), but then again, so can Hope.
Overall, i really like this one.
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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319761#msg319761
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2011, 07:56:12 pm »
ditto that, Hermis0.

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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319766#msg319766
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2011, 08:00:18 pm »
I like it and don't like it:

I like the concept.

I dislike how easily it's abused. It's kinda like Aflatoxin, except that once this is up (and protected) there's no cure whatsoever.

Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319771#msg319771
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2011, 08:04:12 pm »
I think it might be good with  :earth or  :gravity. Both fit this more thematically. It would also prevent discourage abusing it. There are also a zillion anti-immaterial cards out there.

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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319775#msg319775
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2011, 08:07:11 pm »
I think it might be good with  :earth or  :gravity. Both fit this more thematically. It would also prevent discourage abusing it. There are also a zillion anti-immaterial cards out there.
How would  :earth or  :gravity fit more thematically?
To block ethereal intrusion you need ethereal solids. Diamond will not work to block immaterial spirits.
Aether is the element that fits the ethereal and the ethereal solids.
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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319782#msg319782
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2011, 08:09:27 pm »
I say that because  :gravity and  :earth are considered the 'material' elements, so why not hypermaterial?

Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319783#msg319783
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 08:13:33 pm »
I like it, Eat it Divine Glory, Anubis, Aether Creatures and Phase Dragon!

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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319787#msg319787
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 08:24:37 pm »
I say that because  :gravity and  :earth are considered the 'material' elements, so why not hypermaterial?
Because material and hypermaterial (as used here) are opposites. Some Ethereal Solids: Blood, Plant matter, Lead, Silver and Gold.
Aether is the place to expect Aetheric barriers.
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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319789#msg319789
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2011, 08:26:34 pm »
I say that because  :gravity and  :earth are considered the 'material' elements, so why not hypermaterial?
There's actually a totally reasonable and utterly unimportant reason for this.  (skip if you don't care)

Hypermaterial materials are not just "thick" materials.  They exist beyond (not outside) the realms of our dimension.  For example, a Hypercube exists in 4 linear dimensions (time isn't a linear dimension).  It isn't non-existant or merely in another realms; instead it extends far past ours into the other realms as well.  The concept of having a "hypermaterial barrier" is that the aetherial, which utilize their ability to escape the normal realm, are blocked in those realms due to that exact ability.

Now I'm sure you're going to point out that it should block everything in every realm then.  But the difference is that in other realms the wall need not be potent, because the aetherial creatures, while transpiring this realm to others for the purpose of evading difficulties in this realm, do not actually engage in behavior in the other realms (those are reserved for this realm).  It's essentially like a bear sticking his face into the water.  He's beyond the realm of the salmon, but his behavior is in their realm.  While in this state, he does not impact the materials of the world in which he actually lives.  Thus, even a cheap flimsy wall in the other dimensions would block the aetherial creatures.  But in this realm, such barriers, capable of blocking anything and everything, are not even reasonable but for short periods of time.

Besides all of that, I thought it was a snazy name.

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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg319876#msg319876
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2011, 10:06:31 pm »
I say that because  :gravity and  :earth are considered the 'material' elements, so why not hypermaterial?
There's actually a totally reasonable and utterly unimportant reason for this.  (skip if you don't care)

Hypermaterial materials are not just "thick" materials.  They exist beyond (not outside) the realms of our dimension.  For example, a Hypercube exists in 4 linear dimensions (time isn't a linear dimension).  It isn't non-existant or merely in another realms; instead it extends far past ours into the other realms as well.  The concept of having a "hypermaterial barrier" is that the aetherial, which utilize their ability to escape the normal realm, are blocked in those realms due to that exact ability.

Now I'm sure you're going to point out that it should block everything in every realm then.  But the difference is that in other realms the wall need not be potent, because the aetherial creatures, while transpiring this realm to others for the purpose of evading difficulties in this realm, do not actually engage in behavior in the other realms (those are reserved for this realm).  It's essentially like a bear sticking his face into the water.  He's beyond the realm of the salmon, but his behavior is in their realm.  While in this state, he does not impact the materials of the world in which he actually lives.  Thus, even a cheap flimsy wall in the other dimensions would block the aetherial creatures.  But in this realm, such barriers, capable of blocking anything and everything, are not even reasonable but for short periods of time.

Besides all of that, I thought it was a snazy name.
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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg320001#msg320001
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2011, 01:00:37 am »
Ok, nevermind me.

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Re: Hypermaterial Wall | Hypermaterial Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25013.msg320022#msg320022
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2011, 01:21:01 am »
Ok, nevermind me.
lol.. are you kidding?  that was the most entertaining thing i wrote all day.
and to think you guys actually bothered to read it.  :P

Other thoughts?  Any way it is OP or UP, changes needed?  I try to keep things tidy, so it's not complicated (for that, see my Pandora's Box).

 

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