High One | Enlightened One

[OldTrees]

High One
Casting Cost 8
Starting Stats 5|4
Effect 1 : If targeted by Immortality then gain +5|+0 and momentum

Result: less powerful than the below creature

Casting Cost 8 
Starting Stats 5|4 Momentum
Effect: 1 : Lycanthropy

^This is underpowered. (should cost 7 )

High One is underpowered but just slightly.


Enlightened One
Casting Cost 10
Starting Stats 6|4
Effect 1 : If targeted by Immortality then gain +9|+0 and momentum

Result: less powerful than the below creature

Casting Cost 10 
Starting Stats 10|4 Momentum
Effect: 1 : Lycanthropy

^This is underpowered overpowered. (should cost 9 )

High One is underpowered but just slightly.


That said I feel that a toned down momentum immortal would be more appropriate (reduced cost as well)

Calculations of comparison creatures in spoiler.
Creature 1
Balanced Cost [7 ] = Attack [5] + HP Value [0 ] -1 [Light Creature Bonus] +3 [Lycanthropy Skill] -1 [Duo cost] +1 [Momentum when attack<7]
Creature 2
Balanced Cost [9 ] = Attack [10] + HP Value [0 ] -1 [Light Creature Bonus] +3 [Lycanthropy Skill] -1 [Duo cost] +0 [Momentum when attack>7] -2 [upgraded]

[Krahhl]

Underpowered? That's new.

Are you saying I should lower the costs by 1 ? I felt that they should be higher because of the amount of damage that comes with momentum.

Do you mean I should change the cards to 5|4 and 10|4 starting with momentum? Or were you just using that to make a comparison?

[QuantumT]

Just as an observation, momentum on the upped creature should NOT be free.

[AnonymousRevival]

Immortality and momentum could be a deadly thing, especially when the stats are higher than a dragon.

[OldTrees]

Elite Charger gets free momentum.

Reasoning: Momentum ensures the ability to attack (provided the creature has atk > 0). Abilities that trigger on successful attack lose that disadvantage if presented with momentum. However high attack creatures already were able to overflow the damage reduction shields and thus receive less of a bonus from momentum.

This is a guideline derived in part from Sapphire Charger --> Elite Charger

Balanced Cost [5] = Attack [4] + HP Value

+ Momentum [1]

Balanced Cost [5] = Attack [7] + HP Value

+ Momentum  + Upgrade [-2]

For those saying the Immortality + Momentum is too powerful look at Quinted Elite Chargers (it is just 2 cards so it is comparable)

[Krahhl]

Immortality and momentum could be a deadly thing, especially when the stats are higher than a dragon.

Thank you for your enlightening input. ...

For those saying the Immortality + Momentum is too powerful look at Quinted Elite Chargers (it is just 2 cards so it is comparable)

Yes, definitely comparable. The divine being has twice as much attack, but also twice as much cost, an off-element ability cost, and a turn of vulnerability. Chargers can just be played and quinted without any extra complications.

[OldTrees]

It was not a direct comparison to the card or to momentum immortal dragon like behemoth.

It was a comment aimed just at whether momentum + immortal (ie invulnerable) creatures were OP. (I wanted to head this off)

(To be fair I decided to go test them myself.)
As I suspected, Quinted Chargers are no threat to the balance.
Specifically for this card though.
I would recommend reducing the attack and cost of each by at least 5 or so.

So make it comparable to
Creature 1
Balanced Cost [2 ] = Attack [0 ] + HP Value [0 ] -1 [Light Creature Bonus] +3 [Lycanthropy Skill] -1 [Duo cost] +1 [Momentum when attack<7]
Creature 2
Balanced Cost [1 ] = Attack [1] + HP Value [0 ] -1 [Light Creature Bonus] +3 [Lycanthropy Skill] -1 [Duo cost] +1 [Momentum when attack<7] -2 [upgraded]

[Krahhl]

That'd defeat the whole point of it being a Divine Being. As in superpowerful.

[OldTrees]

Not all divine beings are omnipotent. (any that are cannot be played due to infinite cost)
So tone it down to quasideity levels.

Hercules is a divine being as are most (but not all) Greek heroes.

After all those are Dragons, divine beings in their own right (depending on mythology)

[Krahhl]

True, but 5 attack is just.. . lame.

[OldTrees]

how about 7-->8? That puts it right up there with other mythical monstrous creatures.

[Drobbit]

I never minded to destroy your idea (it's a point I want to remark) I'm just trying to help with a good balance.
Now: think why there is not a dragon with momentum. Because if you have a quint, it is just too much damage each turn. I know that your card have one turn of weakness and it's expensive, but just think about it. That's why I suggested to low the hp to 3 (and then you can low also a point of the cost). Or let meditate cost