High One | Enlightened One

[Drobbit]

To be honest, I think that the biggest creatures must be the dragons. Doing a strongest creature it's very hard for the game mechanics. That's my oppinion, sure you can do something like this not OP but I prefere it behind the power of the dragons.

And the very important thing is that there is no way to deal with the Divine Being. It's OK for me if you want both immaterial and momentum in one single card, but then you should balance the damage it does because when one of this is in play the opponent can count the turns he has before he dies. Of course there are more situations like this one, but all of them needs at least three cards, and are less tough.

[Krahhl]

Biggest? I think the biggest creature, hp-wise, would be a flying Titan. After that massive dragons are tied with elite armagios.

If you mean by attack, then sure, dragons currently have the highest attack. Celestial being is still behind crimson dragon, and divine being only ties with ruby dragon. In no way does this card make dragons useless or worse. And there is no rule that says dragons have to be the strongest creatures; those with growth/ablaze can easily surpass a dragon anyway.

If by "biggest" you mean something else altogether, then you will have to specify because I'm not able to guess it.


You say "when one of this is in play the opponent can count the turns he has before he dies"? True, but only if your opponent is willing to give up like that. He could just as easily lay out some healing to keep himself alive, or simply go and kill you first.

[QuantumT]

If you mean by attack, then sure, dragons currently have the highest attack. Celestial being is still behind crimson dragon, and divine being only ties with ruby dragon. In no way does this card make dragons useless or worse. And there is no rule that says dragons have to be the strongest creatures; those with growth/ablaze can easily surpass a dragon anyway.

If by "biggest" you mean something else altogether, then you will have to specify because I'm not able to guess it.

I think he just means in terms of game setup, he want the dragons to be the most powerful creatures available (which they are currently in terms of base attack). There's no explicit rule that says it has to be this way, but it is a sentiment many people share.

[Krahhl]

In that case, technically, this card has a base attack of 5 for unupped and 6 for upped. The transformation is simply part of the card's ability, much like a lava destroyer's growth.

[QuantumT]

In that case, technically, this card has a base attack of 5 for unupped and 6 for upped. The transformation is simply part of the card's ability, much like a lava destroyer's growth.

That seems reasonable enough. I figure he thought that because it looks like a separate card.

[AnonymousRevival]

To be honest, I think that the biggest creatures must be the dragons. Doing a strongest creature it's very hard for the game mechanics. That's my oppinion, sure you can do something like this not OP but I prefere it behind the power of the dragons.

And the very important thing is that there is no way to deal with the Divine Being. It's OK for me if you want both immaterial and momentum in one single card, but then you should balance the damage it does because when one of this is in play the opponent can count the turns he has before he dies. Of course there are more situations like this one, but all of them needs at least three cards, and are less tough.

They don't have to be you know? I'm thinking of a series called the Olympians that are stronger than the dragons.

[Drobbit]

Yes, is just a sentiment that dragons must keep being the strongest creatures without "additives". I'd like to see strongest (I always meant attack) cratures but IMHO I don't like a strongest creature that have itself momentum and immortality. It's too much for a single card.
I know it mus transformate. But I would give to the main card a very low attack/hp so opponent have an oportunity. You won't play it if you don't have a quint in your hand and that gives just one turn to deal with. Then you have a problem because it's unstopable at all.
Even dragons need two cards to be like yours. And every other creature needs more than that to compare to what you want to build. So, for me, it's not reasonable.
And of course you can heal or kill first...

[Krahhl]

Hmm.

Yes, is just a sentiment that dragons must keep being the strongest creatures without "additives". I'd like to see strongest (I always meant attack) cratures but IMHO I don't like a strongest creature that have itself momentum and immortality. It's too much for a single card.

It doesn't have momentum or immortality in a single card. The immortality must be given to it; it only gains momentum for itself.

I know it mus transformate. But I would give to the main card a very low attack/hp so opponent have an oportunity. You won't play it if you don't have a quint in your hand and that gives just one turn to deal with. Then you have a problem because it's unstopable at all.

I'm not sure how attack helps survivability at all, but it already does have low hp. 4 is vulnerable to most damage CC's, not to mention freezing, rewinding, and lobotomizing.

Playing a card, casting momentum on it, and quinting it has the same effect, but doesn't even give the opponent a single chance to counter it.

Even dragons need two cards to be like yours. And every other creature needs more than that to compare to what you want to build. So, for me, it's not reasonable.

Not sure what you're saying here. If it's the momentum and immortality you want, dragons and any other creature need the same number of cards, the momentum, the quint, and the creature itself.

And of course you can heal or kill first...

Then aren't you agreeing with me and disproving your own argument?

[AnonymousRevival]

Yep, Drobbit, you're right. This makes the card invincible brining a limited time for the opponent without being able to destroy it.

[Nepycros]

I actually expect that this card will be played with Sundial, just to make sure that the opponent won't have a point to gravity pull it.

[Pineapple]

6 Enlightened Ones, 3 Upped Anubises, 12 Upped Light Towers, 9 Upped Time Towers Aether Mark.

Will it blend?

Anyways, I like the card mechanic, don't think it's OP, and will probably vote for it in Crucible.

[Krahhl]

I actually expect that this card will be played with Sundial, just to make sure that the opponent won't have a point to gravity pull it.

If they gravity pull it, it'll stay on the creature after you immortalize it. So it can still die that way.

6 Enlightened Ones, 3 Upped Anubises, 12 Upped Light Towers, 9 Upped Time Towers Aether Mark.

The only deck you'd be able to beat would probably be a deck completely focused on shields and nothing else, no healing, creature control, or offense. And those practically don't exist.

Rush - you die. Stall with healing - you deck out. Creature control - your enlightened ones die and you deck out.