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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376019#msg376019
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 09:36:12 pm »
Alright lets assemble some changes.
Cost 3|2
Effect modification:
Target card is returned to its owner's hand.  Does not affect shields.
Notes:Rewinds card if hand is full.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376022#msg376022
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 09:51:05 pm »
I don't see why this shouldn't affect shields.  You only get six of these maximum, that's six turns of enemy exposure assuming you live long enough to draw them all - and you neither deny your opponent any draws, nor do you actually destroy the shield.  In fact, if you use it against Phase Shield, you have just given your opponent at least one counter back.  It also makes sense conceptually - a strong enough gale to blow the enemy's shield out of his hand (and back into his hand, heh).

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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376024#msg376024
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 09:54:33 pm »
I don't see why this shouldn't affect shields.  You only get six of these maximum, that's six turns of enemy exposure assuming you live long enough to draw them all - and you neither deny your opponent any draws, nor do you actually destroy the shield.  In fact, if you use it against Phase Shield, you have just given your opponent at least one counter back.
The issue is that you can use this card on your own cards. If you have a phase shield out on its last turn and you send it back to your hand, now you have an extra phase shield.  Essentially where before 6 phase sheildx3 turns = 18 turns of protection, it can potentially become 12 phase shieldx3 turns = 36 turns of protection.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376030#msg376030
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2011, 10:07:54 pm »
Ah, was only considering this against the enemy's cards.  That makes sense.

And I also love this card even more now, as it's a Rewind that doesn't require an Hourglass to restore a creature from debuffs!

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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376053#msg376053
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2011, 11:28:31 pm »
Sundial :P

With you not being able to chain Phase Shields nor counter shields, I wonder if this card is really that useful at all, and whether or not it deserves to be more expensive than Reverse Time | Rewind.

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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376057#msg376057
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2011, 11:33:06 pm »
Sundial :P - sundial stops both players, if you want to have an extended delay, I see no issue, sundial is also limited to 1 turn.
 
With you not being able to chain Phase Shields nor counter shields, I wonder if this card is really that useful at all, and whether or not it deserves to be more expensive than Reverse Time | Rewind.
I made it around the cost of reverse time because I felt this way as well, however after looking at other opinions, I have to agree that the sheer versatility of this card requires some kind of cost increase. Maybe just 2|1 instead of 3|2.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376426#msg376426
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2011, 05:12:09 pm »
I thought of something that should settle the issues.
Effect:
Target card is returned to its owner's hand.  Does not affect cards with a durration.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376451#msg376451
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2011, 05:45:55 pm »
Card updated.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376453#msg376453
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2011, 05:50:48 pm »
Card updated.
I think, you only updated the table and not the card images itself.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376456#msg376456
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2011, 05:56:45 pm »
Card updated.
I think, you only updated the table and not the card images itself.
Refresh your browser or clear your internet cache.
The card image uses the same source url(makes for easier changes and less clutter).
It has been changed.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376458#msg376458
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2011, 05:57:42 pm »
Card updated.
I think, you only updated the table and not the card images itself.
Refresh your browser or clear your internet cache.
The card image uses the same source url(makes for easier changes and less clutter).
It has been changed.
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Re: Gust|Gale https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29509.msg376569#msg376569
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2011, 10:54:31 pm »
Typo correction: *duration

Also, can you change the title to "Gust | Gale" ?
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