Growing Entity | Shrinking Entity

[991woot119]

From polls I guess I'll halve the attack/hp so instead of doing 55 damage and gaining 18 quanta you do 15 damage and gain 7 quanta

[991woot119]

Damn new picture isnt working oh well

[991woot119]

why's no-one talking about growing entity? adding +1|1 every turn for 2 quanta until none are left could be pretty devastating if you play it early

[Kuross]

I can't quite put my finger on it, but I can't help but feel these two cards need to be reworked.

First and foremost, putting creatures in "Other" seems out of place. I am not so sure there should be too many addins for "Other." But what I am seeing of the two cards (upped/unupped) they seem to be similar in an inverse funtion but I think realistically they are two very different cards. I think it may be best to explore either card on a seperate tangent and develop them individually. Just my opinion.

[Rooftrellen]

The growing one isn't OP.

It's worse than growth, except it could work in any deck, without something specific.

Also, it would require some boost to live long enough to start growing.

A 2 card combo that gains stats at half the speed of growth for twice the quanta...people aren't going to think it is overly strong.

[Drobbit]

both are OP imo. One quantum tower can afford the cost of the unupped and obviously the upped one gives quanta and also damages.
i suggest to increase the quanta cost of the unupped and decrease the starting attack/deffense of the upped.

[live-on.no-evil]

i think the growing entity is not OP. twice the cost of a normal growth skill.
and regarding the shrinking entity, it is way too powerful,
maybe this way.
10|10 is the starting stats.
then per turn it loses 2 attack stats and 3 or 2 hp stats.
10 + 8 +6 +4 = 28, still a fair damage plus the gaining of quantas.
10 + 8 + 6 + 4 + 2 = 30. more than the 28 damage by 2.
assuming it is not targeted by any damaging skill.
also increase the to-cast cost of the shrinking entity. for it also generates like a quantum pillar per turn less one.
ceteris paribus

[ArtCrusade]

Why is this dude posting 4 times in a row? Can't anyone tell him there is an "EDIT" button somewhere?


B2T: While Shrinking Entity deals 10+9+8+7+6 (=40) damage, an Emerald Dragon deals 50 damage. While the Emerald Dragon costs 5 times more (of one quantum source, not a random one) the Shrinking Entity generates quantum for even more Shrinking Entities. If this card was implemented the way it is right now you could win in 2 turns. If that is not enough prove for you that it is overpowered, you can find the door over there. Right, there *points over there*

And please, this "I ask you what to change"-thing doesn't work. Try different things with your cards and test it on paper. If that's too much work for you, I already told you were the door is. 

[991woot119]

I know there is an edit button and I used it on my second post I do a new post so it goes to the top of the page again

EDIT:I changed the card (hopefully te picture works now) so it has 5 HP therefore you gain 7 quanta (I upped the cost aswell) AND I halved the attack so it does 15 damage over 5 turns still OP? atleast its not as bad as an upgraded fire rush deck which can bring out a ruby dragon (15 damage) in one turn and pump up golems

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Try to fix your tables up so that the tables align with their respective cards. ^^; If you're unsure of how to fix it, P.M. me and I'll help you.
-Make sure that there are no discrepancies between the Card's Text and the table's Text section for both cards (your upped card image doesn't have the phrase, "When no HP are left Shrinking Entity dies." when compared to the table)

It's a semi-weird card that could potentially be really powerful in a deck that uses nova or supernova (the Growing Entity specifically). Shrinking Entity also has some interesting stat gains - the wording threw me off initially. I think it'd be a little more interesting if the new creatures were switched - or more specifically, if both shrinking entity's stats were lowered and were the non-upped card, while growing entity was the upgraded card with 1|1.

Then again, that's probably just as controversial as before, so it's really up to you on what you want to do with it. ^^;

[991woot119]

Shrinking entity would be a bit OP for unupgraded since it does 15 damage in total and gains quanta instead of losing it and both could be used to make a really powerful deck with nova/supernova and fractal

[doublecross]

Both should have an ability that allows you to pay a certain amount of quanta to turn into the other.

Growing entity could have
Shrink
Cost 3   
Turn into a shrinking entity with the same stats


Shrinking entity could have
Grow
Cost 3
Turn into a growing entity with the same stats