Greater Mongoose | Greater Mongoose

[EmeraldTiger]

NAME: Greater Mongoose ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 6 | 6 TEXT: Mongoose: Unable to be infected.	NAME: Greater Mongoose ELEMENT: Life COST: 6 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 6 | 7 TEXT: Mongoose: Unable to be infected.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/332380 IDEA: Hyroen, EmeraldTiger NOTES: SERIES:

[Flayne]

IF this does not stack:
seems to weak for existing around a sole purpose.

I suggest 50% for upped. Maybe 25% for unnupped.

upped = 20 poison damage converted to 10 poison damage with this around, slightly better.

IF this Does stack, ignore the comment and its fine.


The cost depends on your answer.
I would suggest the unnupped being 4 and upped being 3 .
maybe cheaper since it has one purpose only.

Thought I would recommend this does stack, why?

If 6 of these are on the field (25%), thats 150%.

So, If this is above 100%, The poison would actually heal you.
The counters would still be there, but 50% of them actually heal you, while the rest is just negated damage.

[EmeraldTiger]

I will go with the general consensus, some may think stacking will make it OP.

[OldTrees]

@Flayne
Percentages do not stack like that.
25% means 1/4 of the time Mongoose 1 prevents the poison damage.
That means 3/4s of the time Mongoose 1 does not prevent the poison damage.
That means that each additional Mongoose (if it stacks) would reduce the 3/4s by 25% of 3/4s.
The chance of poison damage not being prevented in the presence of N Mongooses (if it stacks) is (3/4)^N.
In other words:  2 Mongooses (if it stacks) would have a (3/4)x(3/4)=9/16s chance of not preventing the poison damage.
1: 3/4 chance of poison damage
2: 9/16 chance of poison damage
3: 27/64 chance of poison damage
4: 81/256 chance of poison damage
5: 243/1024 chance of poison damage
6: 729/4096 chance of poison damage

[artimies7]

@Flayne
Percentages do not stack like that.
25% means 1/4 of the time Mongoose 1 prevents the poison damage.
That means 3/4s of the time Mongoose 1 does not prevent the poison damage.
That means that each additional Mongoose (if it stacks) would reduce the 3/4s by 25% of 3/4s.
The chance of poison damage not being prevented in the presence of N Mongooses (if it stacks) is (3/4)^N.
In other words:  2 Mongooses (if it stacks) would have a (3/4)x(3/4)=9/16s chance of not preventing the poison damage.
1: 3/4 chance of poison damage
2: 9/16 chance of poison damage
3: 27/64 chance of poison damage
4: 81/256 chance of poison damage
5: 243/1024 chance of poison damage
6: 729/4096 chance of poison damage

I was going to say stacking means (1) 25% + (2) 25% of 25% + (3) 25% of 25% of 25%, but you ninja'd me.

And besides, mine requires more calculations, which you did anyway.
If you want to know whether stacking is OP, put up a poll. I do it all the time.

[EmeraldTiger]

so would they stack the way Flayne said if the % didn't affect each other?

[Flayne]

Sorry to say, but If that is the case with what ET wanted, then that's kind of useless, IMO.
729/4096 chance to prevent poison damage? extremely UP, why not just use a purify?

However, The text implies, "25% of poison damage to you is negated"
That is a direct negation.
So that would either mean that 3/4 of the poison damage that is directed at you from multiple sources, or
the incoming damage from the poison counters you have.

I don't see any "Chance" involved in the card text.
Therefore, I am either correct the way I was, or what ET wanted is what you are implying.
(or perhaps I misunderstand what you guys are saying)

ET, what is it you want to achieve with this card?

[EmeraldTiger]

Would be better if poison was blocked?

[ninjamaster1991]

Maybe every 4th counter does nothing? so, with 4 mongeese, you'd have 0 poison damage.

[Hyroen]

I'd say make the unupgraded semi-vanilla, 1:1:1 cost:attack:HP ratio and a mid-hitter with the ability Mongoose: Unable to be infected. Add slight improvements for the upgraded and voila.

\^_^/

[EmeraldTiger]

what attack range = a mid-hitter?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I think a mid-hitter with stats around ~6 | ~6 would be good for this card. Life lacks such a midhitter at the moment and lower stats might cause this card to compete with Frog and Cockatrice.

I also agree with removing the innate "While in play 25% of poison damage to you is negated.", and buff the upgraded/lower the cost instead. It keeps that "simple" feeling that I really like from the unupped.