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Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047153#msg1047153
« on: March 01, 2013, 10:49:02 pm »
NAME:
Graviton Obliterator
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
8 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 12
TEXT:
Whenever a permanent is removed from play, Graviton Obliterator attacks.
:gravity :gravity : Sacrifice Permanent
NAME:
Graviton Obliterator
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
9 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
8 | 15
TEXT:
Whenever a permanent is removed from play, Graviton Obliterator attacks.
:gravity :gravity : Sacrifice Permanent

ART:
Krava
IDEA:
Drake_XIV
NOTES:
Does not trigger Bone Wall unless targeted by PC or is played over.
Will not trigger when Weapons or Shields are played over.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 03:35:51 am by Drake_XIV »

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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047157#msg1047157
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2013, 10:52:28 pm »
Does that mean he would attack on opponents turn if opponent sacrificed a permanent?

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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047160#msg1047160
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 10:57:29 pm »
Bone wall?
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047170#msg1047170
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 11:18:32 pm »
...hunh. It's pretty tempting to just dismiss this card due to that drawback/ability...But I think I know what you're getting at- a combo with Graviton Salvager.
...Don't care too much for the niche of the card though.
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047175#msg1047175
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 11:36:44 pm »
EQ would only trigger it once
Debating if it would work with Bone Wall

Gravity is really tricky to mess with in terms of stat niche.  You don't want to overpower the dragon, but it's hard to do that with them having really low stats...

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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047178#msg1047178
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 11:45:49 pm »
...hunh. It's pretty tempting to just dismiss this card due to that drawback/ability...But I think I know what you're getting at- a combo with Graviton Salvager.
...Don't care too much for the niche of the card though.
Unfortunately, salvager only functions for permanents that get lost on opponent's turn... so it wouldn't combo that great with the sacrifice ability on this card.

I do like that it provides another means "soft" of anti-CC.

By the way, why not use:
"This card attacks whenever a permanent leaves play."
It saves you a line of space :D
Then you could name the sacrifice ability... or give it a little added oomph somehow.
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047179#msg1047179
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 11:48:37 pm »
That actually was the original text.  I just wanted to take up the entire card.

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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047183#msg1047183
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 12:00:51 am »
Ah. Gotcha.

One idea to make it a little more distinct from the dragon would be to drop the attack a bit and use the extra line to allow the ability to be multi-use. E.g.

" :gravity :gravity : Sacrifice a permanent.
  Can be used 2 times per turn."

That way you could drop it to something like 1 or 2 attack. It would keep its damage on par with dragon, but would promote it more for use with buff spell combos.

Right now, it will probably overshadow the dragon as it has roughly equal stat efficiency and an even higher damage output potential due to its abilities.

At any rate, I do really like the concept. It serves a unique niche with permanent destruction. Both as a deterrent to the opponent and as a potential combo-core for pulvy or SoFo decks.
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047219#msg1047219
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 01:15:20 am »
SoFo's best friend?

If you have more than one Obliterator and they all use their abilities (destroying some pillars, for example), they all attack for each time the ability is triggered?

I think bone wall should trigger only when the last bone gets destroyed (same as what happens for salvagers, if I'm not mistaken)
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047223#msg1047223
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 01:20:39 am »
No, Salvager triggers whenever Bone Wall is destroyed by the opponent with PC aside from Steal.

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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047228#msg1047228
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 01:41:08 am »
Hrm...Seems I misjudged this card. I thought it was like that Oroochi thing that came across to me like a card that was far to weak for it's drawback (balanced stats, but ability that demanded being built around or be too self-destructive to use.) This however, seems like it synergizes with existing  :gravity tactics well, and won't be simply unused due to being a pain in the neck to work with (still annoying, but this time around, it's ability is not as massively disasterous if things go wrong.)
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Re: Graviton Obliterator | Graviton Obliterator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47347.msg1047308#msg1047308
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 10:13:14 am »
Isn't this kinda UP? I would rather use Charger for attacker. Cheaper, with momentum, doesn't need a trigger to attack.
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