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Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438134#msg438134
« on: December 13, 2011, 05:58:20 am »
NAME:
Graviton Medic
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 15
TEXT:
:life  : Transfusion
Transfer status effects from target creature to Graviton Medic.
NAME:
Graviton Medic
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 10
TEXT:
:life  : Transfusion
Transfer status effects from target creature to Graviton Medic.
ART:
Darkrobe
IDEA:
Darkrobe
NOTES:
Current transfer is set at:

Max transfer of 3 turns of freeze/delay, 5 infection, 1 adrenaline and 1 gravity pull per use of transfusion.

These effects are removed from the target creature and transferred to medic. This card is meant as a cheap way to combat some minor CC. It can also be used to remove gravity pull or adrenaline from enemy creatures. It can also be a cheap but prime target for acceleration. The upped version can also serve as some immolation fodder to combo with fireeaters. One suggested combo is to bb an Oty and then remove the stall.
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438142#msg438142
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2011, 07:39:35 am »
seems a bit to powerful with BB'd otys, even for a trio of elements...other than that its alright but not stellar
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438179#msg438179
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2011, 02:18:29 pm »
so its too powerful but not stellar. that doesnt seem like the best place to be. Is the skill the problem? or the fact that it is gravity?

I could lower it to removing 1 turn of stall or frozen, for each use of transfusion. that way it would be more of a way to combat BB rather than a combo with it. Using the transfusion you could get unstalled in 3 turns as opposed to 6 that way.

Any more critiques? other than the BB. are there issues with its other effects?

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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438190#msg438190
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2011, 02:39:35 pm »
I think it's balanced.
but it's skill(and name) sounds for me more like  :life, so maybe you can change  :light into  :life, just an idea
what does medic with momentum since it's something like adrenaline, does he steal the +1/+1?
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438224#msg438224
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2011, 04:35:02 pm »
my thought was that he doesnt "heal" things that have to/can be lobotomized. so momentum is not included as one of the things that gets transferred. that is up for debate however.

I guess it could go to :life. I wasnt particularly sure because i dont know of any similar skill other than "heal" which is :light.

Edit: this idea was originally meant to be a way to remove poison counters from important attackers. in the process of developing the idea i came up with this. I dont have a particular attachment to the gravity or light aspects of the card. I like the skill.

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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438226#msg438226
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2011, 04:41:39 pm »
I could lower it to removing 1 turn of stall or frozen, for each use of transfusion. that way it would be more of a way to combat BB rather than a combo with it. Using the transfusion you could get unstalled in 3 turns as opposed to 6 that way.
If you do this, it becomes a balanced but rather useless card. If you don't, then BB Otys becomes an intresting deck.
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438232#msg438232
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 04:49:31 pm »
Skill fits Light or Life. Light fits better IMHO
The skill fits better with high hp. Good choice of Gravity.

How about: 2 turns of freeze/delay, 5 infection, 1 adrenaline and 1 gravity pull.
Since this does not remove all status effects at once the card text might change to
"Transfer status effects from target creature to Graviton Medic."

Thought to consider (But it is not a suggestion): What if the upgraded had 10hp and cost 0?
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438234#msg438234
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 04:54:40 pm »
Thought to consider (But it is not a suggestion): What if the upgraded had 10hp and cost 0?
Immolation fodder that doubles up as a CC-remover?
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438237#msg438237
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 05:00:32 pm »
Good suggestions. I like you thoughts on the caps OT.

I think 0 cost upped might be a good change. I want the card to be cheap but limited anti-CC. That improves playability and I can see the  use for immolation.

Graviton fire-eaters + graviton medic = "Squadron" deck

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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438239#msg438239
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 05:04:11 pm »
Thought to consider (But it is not a suggestion): What if the upgraded had 10hp and cost 0?
Immolation fodder that doubles up as a CC-remover?
For comparison:
5|0 (access to Chaos Power)
2|1 Generate  :air
1|2 Generate  :earth

Good suggestions. I like you thoughts on the caps OT.

I think 0 cost upped might be a good change. I want the card to be cheap but limited anti-CC. That improves playability and I can see the  use for immolation.

Graviton fire-eaters + graviton medic = "Squadron" deck
The 0 cost was a thought to consider. It was not a suggestion. All designers of 1 cost creatures with a Duo ability should consider whether it would be better as a 0 cost. After consideration it may or may not be wise.
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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438242#msg438242
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 05:13:25 pm »
dont worry, i havent changed anything yet. looking for reactions to the consideration. I just meant that I liked the thought of making it a 0 cost creature.

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Re: Graviton Medic | Graviton Medic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34749.msg438541#msg438541
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 05:44:19 am »
Id like to get feedback on the current version from other members of the community.

 

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