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Title: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on June 26, 2012, 08:17:51 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/DtD75.png)	(http://i.imgur.com/2BlGP.png)
NAME: Gluttony ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 6 :gravity TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature gains Gluttony.  Once per turn, it can devour a creature.  If it does not, it takes -1|-2.	NAME: Gluttony ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 5 :gravity TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Target creature gains Gluttony.  Once per turn, it can devour a creature.  If it does not, it takes -1|-2.

ART: duchesssa [http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1284217] IDEA: Drake_XIV NOTES: The cost of Gluttony is equal to the target's max health divided by 3.  Rounds up.  It costs :gravity . SERIES: Seven Deadly Sins  (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41895.0.html)

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: esran on June 26, 2012, 08:59:09 pm

the card looks pretty good, the first problem i can see is that creatures can activate their bilities without targets. this has been used to explout sofos and other cards. im not sure if it would make this card not work.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on June 26, 2012, 09:08:53 pm

No, because the ability will only work if it does not gain the stats from Devouring.  Essentially, it's either +1|+1 or -1|-1.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: furballdn on June 26, 2012, 10:15:16 pm

Sounds very similar to the appetite stimulant idea.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on June 26, 2012, 10:24:18 pm

Yeah, but unless I remembering stimulant incorrectly, there is no downside for not Devouring.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: n00b on June 27, 2012, 03:56:22 am

Armedilgo approves of this card.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on June 27, 2012, 04:00:12 am

Quote from: n00b on June 27, 2012, 03:56:22 am

Armedilgo approves of this card.

Because 9 :gravity Devour is so nice looking.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: OdinVanguard on June 29, 2012, 10:16:37 pm

Will the devour ability that is granted be of the same type as the creature to use? If not, what type of quanta will be needed?

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: MiasmicBound on June 30, 2012, 12:59:51 am

I love the card but in actual fact if you played against this card i'd hate it.
I guess, its roughly balanced though. It's a do or die (well -1|-1) situation.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on June 30, 2012, 04:48:12 am

Quote from: OdinVanguard on June 29, 2012, 10:16:37 pm

Will the devour ability that is granted be of the same type as the creature to use? If not, what type of quanta will be needed?

Well, the idea was to put it in :gravity , which I have so conveniently forgotten to add to the notes...

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Pineapple on June 30, 2012, 02:17:17 pm

With SoR, it wouldn't make much of a difference if you switched the ability cost from variable to constant. Plus, if it were constant, you could add the cost into the card text.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Chapuz on June 30, 2012, 03:45:50 pm

gluton armagio > armored Oty.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Pineapple on June 30, 2012, 04:05:50 pm

Quote from: Chapuz on June 30, 2012, 03:45:50 pm

gluton armagio > armored Oty.

I'd have two armor'd Otyughs over a glutton'd armagio and a couple of extra pillars any day.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on July 01, 2012, 06:56:43 am

Ugh, Shards.  Well, then the cost resets each turn.  So with SoR, you get a 5 cost Devour for one turn.  Then it returns to the cost that is given to it by the Max HP.  I guess by making the cost dynamic, it makes it hard to just buff a Glutton.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Pineapple on July 01, 2012, 07:17:49 am

Quote from: Drake_XIV on July 01, 2012, 06:56:43 am

Ugh, Shards.  Well, then the cost resets each turn.  So with SoR, you get a 5 cost Devour for one turn.  Then it returns to the cost that is given to it by the Max HP.  I guess by making the cost dynamic, it makes it hard to just buff a Glutton.

Shard of Readiness is not a problem because it is a one-time use spell and it costs 5-6 quanta. What's the difference between a Glutton'd Golden Dragon and a Glutton'd Titan? A Titan can eat a Golden Dragon, Massive Dragon, Steam Machine, and Voodoo Doll. Is that +4 targeting potential really worth the triple'd ability cost? Because of Devour's mechanics, I believe that the ability cost can be sufficiently balanced even if it is not variable.

Further note: The problem I had was that the card mechanic spilled over into the Notes when this was not necessary.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on July 26, 2012, 09:02:22 pm

Updated

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: blarp on July 26, 2012, 09:07:24 pm

hmm. yeah even with a high gravity cost, you could combine this with sofo to make something nasty.... sofo + gravity pull + overdrive + gluttony deck is just super trolly lol.

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on July 26, 2012, 09:09:04 pm

Quote from: blarp on July 26, 2012, 09:07:24 pm

hmm. yeah even with a high gravity cost, you could combine this with sofo to make something nasty.... sofo + gravity pull + overdrive + gluttony deck is just super trolly lol.

Gluttony is an active, so no Overdrive, and Gravy Pull is unreliable here...

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: blarp on July 26, 2012, 09:16:49 pm

Quote from: Drake_XIV on July 26, 2012, 09:09:04 pm

Quote from: blarp on July 26, 2012, 09:07:24 pm

hmm. yeah even with a high gravity cost, you could combine this with sofo to make something nasty.... sofo + gravity pull + overdrive + gluttony deck is just super trolly lol.

Gluttony is an active, so no Overdrive, and Gravy Pull is unreliable here...

I didn't mean all on the same card, but just overdrive gravity sofo combinations are already quite annoying :P this just adds another option :P

Title: Re: Gluttony | Gluttony
Post by: Drake_XIV on July 26, 2012, 09:18:04 pm

True.  Changes it from cheap PC to expensive CC.