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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg66368#msg66368
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 04:52:07 pm »
I agree, tigers are not really famous about stealing, but stealth.

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg68034#msg68034
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 10:44:03 am »
Now the ability is: steal, loses ability afterwards, or something of the such. It seems under powered, I would just take some steal cards instead of this.

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg68320#msg68320
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2010, 09:32:21 pm »
Reverse Time = more steals

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg68427#msg68427
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2010, 01:05:24 am »
Reverse Time = more steals
True, but I would much rather just have an improved steal than a dusk tiger.

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg73289#msg73289
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2010, 02:47:53 am »
My thought on a fear ability:

Fear  :darkness :darkness  target creature may not attack for that turn. May use abilities normally.

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg73310#msg73310
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2010, 03:46:46 am »
Reverse Time = more steals
Seems alot of people think its Overcosted now, but the 3:1 swing is still there, adding a reverse time effect makes it 5:3 swing and only allows Eternity to better that value, and it has creature control against it with its low defence /delayed effect. To get the balance, might wish to modify one of the cost, attack, defence values slightly positive so thats its not OP but slightly more attractive to the risk outlay. In a game scenario with no control components it is a stong play, in a game with strong opposing control components its an expensive weak play. Since it is only One mount in play at a time and its a Tiger, how about +4|+0 on the basic version and +4|+2 on the upped version?

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg75409#msg75409
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2010, 09:29:02 pm »
All that quanta for one steal and bad attacker?

reverse time doesn't count, then you are paying 12/11 darkness and 3 time quanta per steal not including the cost of the eternity.

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg75418#msg75418
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2010, 09:39:46 pm »
i think it is bordering balanced/UP
the steal is good balance as it isn't seen on cards much - also good damage from the card itself
however ability can only be used once so i would say to make it more blanced make the steal ability only cost 1 :darkness to balanced card up a bit
:) i like (some of) the mounts :P ^_^

either steal to 1
or unlimited to 3 (like pulvy but with steal)

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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg115369#msg115369
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 09:14:50 pm »
I thought darkness already had steal. Why chose darkness? Why not death, or time? Well, maybe not time, but you get the idea.

Plus, this card is way underpowered. One thing I would add to it is maybe endow the permanent into the creature.
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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg122718#msg122718
« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2010, 05:28:00 am »
i like the steal idea nd i thinnk making it only use it once is a great idea i think this would add to the power of a darkness denial deck as in allowing u to not only sap an oppents qauntam but then u cna turn around fractal the mount and steal all the very pillars that the oppenent uses to make the qauntam i like it and i dont think its that op becuase it cna still be beaten by a decent rush deck and adds a new twist to denials and or stall decks
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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg122727#msg122727
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2010, 06:01:03 am »
i like the steal idea nd i thinnk making it only use it once is a great idea i think this would add to the power of a darkness denial deck as in allowing u to not only sap an oppents qauntam but then u cna turn around fractal the mount and steal all the very pillars that the oppenent uses to make the qauntam i like it and i dont think its that op becuase it cna still be beaten by a decent rush deck and adds a new twist to denials and or stall decks
Sorry to break it to you, but you can only have one mount on the field at any given time. Fractal would still work, but if you tried to play another mount, you would lose the first mount that you played.

EDIT: Which leads me to an interesting thought. I won't post it here, though.
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Re: Midnight Tiger | Dusk Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5482.msg122931#msg122931
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2010, 04:49:21 pm »
in a similar idea (Triskter l Identity theft) i explained how i would set the cost (in this case drop the playing cost of the creature)

they had it as a play 6 :darkness and steal an ability so i stated that the creature by itself (2l3) would only cost about as much as a horned toad (3l3) so it would cost 2 :darkness then the steal ability 3 :darkness making the full card worth 5 :darkness

applying the same

this creature is just barely weaker than the toad, and should also be 2 :darkness now if you have to pay  :darkness :darkness :darkness for the steal, the cost shouldn't be added to both the ability and creature, so it only should be 2 :darkness with an ability cost of 3 :darkness or 5 :darkness with no ability cost

 

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