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Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233966#msg233966
« on: December 27, 2010, 05:47:56 am »
NAME:
Gentling Touch
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
1 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Lower the attack of the target creature to 0 for 4 turns.
NAME:
Breaking Touch
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
1 :light
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Lower the attack of the target creature to 0 for 5 turns.
ART:
Valcero
IDEA:
Valcero
NOTES:
Gentling an opponents beast one point at a time buys you time, and preserves your HP.
If the target creature's attack is already 0, there is no effect on said creature.
Gentling touch lasts one more turn than "Freeze", but allows creatures to use abilities.
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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233968#msg233968
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 05:50:15 am »
Noob question:This is permanant right?

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233971#msg233971
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 05:55:55 am »
Noob question:This is permanant right?
Nope it's a spell and if it was a Perm don't you think it would be Op.I love the card alot along with its art and card type.

One problem i think this card is UP it should reduce 2 or 3 attack either that or this this should reduce  2 attack from all creatures on your opponent side of the field.
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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233972#msg233972
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 05:56:59 am »
Noob question:This is permanant right?
Nope it's a spell and if it was a Perm don't you think it would be Op.I love the card alot along with its art and card type.
He meant is the -1 attack permanent.

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233974#msg233974
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2010, 06:03:39 am »
A bit underwhelming IMO.

Either increase the amount reduced, or lower the cost to like... free...

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233976#msg233976
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2010, 06:05:39 am »
Noob question:This is permanant right?
Nope it's a spell and if it was a Perm don't you think it would be Op.I love the card alot along with its art and card type.
Exactly.
Unless the target creature has a grow ability (in which case they would still be able to gain attack, they would just be down by 1)

Thanks for the feedback! :)
A bit underwhelming IMO.

Either increase the amount reduced, or lower the cost to like... free...
I originally had the normal card reducing the targets attack by 2, but would that be too overpowered?

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233978#msg233978
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2010, 06:10:51 am »
A bit underwhelming IMO.

Either increase the amount reduced, or lower the cost to like... free...
I originally had the normal card reducing the targets attack by 2, but would that be too overpowered?
No way it would be Overpowered.

There are cards that can potentially kill a creature for 1 quanta. Cards that can delay a creature for many turns for 1 quanta.

Heck, even skull buckler costs 1 quanta and it effectively decreases the attack of ALL your opponent's creatures by 1, AND it's permanent, and it's considered one of the most underwhelming cards in the game.


You really need to increase the amount of attack lowered.

I would suggest something like reducing the attack to 0 for a certain amount of turns.

Unless, actually, you meant that it loses 1 attack per turn. Then it would actually be pretty good, but you need to change the card text to something like "Target creature gains -1/-0 each turn."

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233982#msg233982
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2010, 06:22:29 am »
A bit underwhelming IMO.

Either increase the amount reduced, or lower the cost to like... free...
I originally had the normal card reducing the targets attack by 2, but would that be too overpowered?
No way it would be Overpowered.

There are cards that can potentially kill a creature for 1 quanta. Cards that can delay a creature for many turns for 1 quanta.

Heck, even skull buckler costs 1 quanta and it effectively decreases the attack of ALL your opponent's creatures by 1, AND it's permanent, and it's considered one of the most underwhelming cards in the game.


You really need to increase the amount of attack lowered.

I would suggest something like reducing the attack to 0 for a certain amount of turns.

Unless, actually, you meant that it loses 1 attack per turn. Then it would actually be pretty good, but you need to change the card text to something like "Target creature gains -1/-0 each turn."
Or perhaps the upped card would decrease the attack by 1 plus the number of light quantum divided by 4?

If that doesn't sound good, then I could run with the 'lowers to 0 for x turns'.

EDIT: Modified both cards- better, worse?

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233990#msg233990
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2010, 07:02:13 am »
A bit better, but still a bit expensive.

Compare:




I would make it last for potentially up to 4/5 turns, with about 1-3 cost.

Congeal is better as it stands now, because it also stops the use of the ability.

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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg233998#msg233998
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 07:34:47 am »
A bit better, but still a bit expensive.

Compare:




I would make it last for potentially up to 4/5 turns, with about 1-3 cost.

Congeal is better as it stands now, because it also stops the use of the ability.
Point taken. xD Fixed again.
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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg234065#msg234065
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 01:09:40 pm »
Nice version of the card Valcero(nice name hehe) so i was think since BB(Basilisk Blood) adds +20 amount of hp to your creature and you can't play for 6 turns unless you adren your creature(comparing) your card should lower there attack for 5 turns i think, Note they can still use there ability if you think about it. :)
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Re: Gentling Touch | Breaking Touch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18389.msg234139#msg234139
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2010, 03:41:53 pm »
Very UP, because compared to Freeze creatures can still use abilities.  Change the cost 1  :light | 1  :rainbow, make both versions reduce attack to 0, and then it would be ready for curator review.

 

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