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Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298324#msg298324
« on: March 26, 2011, 05:12:44 am »
NAME:
Magnetic Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield:  Attacking creatures have a 1/HP chance to be charged. Charged creatures combine into an Ion
NAME:
Magnetic Shield
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
:gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield:  Attacking creatures have a 1/HP chance to be charged. Charged creatures combine into an Ion
ART:
AngeDeMort
IDEA:
AngeDeMort
NOTES:
I figured gravity needs a shield that was more useful than the single one it has now. An Ion would only be created if two or more creatures are charged and shouldn't be created until the end of the turn.
SERIES:
NAME:
Ion
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
5
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
+|+
TEXT:
Combines all charged creatures on the field. Enters with charge and gravity pull
NAME:
Ion
ELEMENT:
Other
COST:
4
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
+|+
TEXT:
Combines all charged creatures on the field. Enters with charge and gravity pull
ART:
Zanzarino for the marks
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Similar to a Chimera except it doesn't absorb all creatures on the field just the ones that are charged. I had originally designed the shield to combine the creatures into a chimera but the chimera is designed so that it absorbs all creatures on the field which i felt would be OP so I came up with the Ion.
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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298330#msg298330
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2011, 05:30:29 am »
I'm not a card curator or anything, but you should remove the 0|0 from the ATK|HP section and just leave it blank. :P
I don't think this could work with the way Chimera is coded right now.  Chimera combines ALL of the creatures on your/the opponent's side at that moment, but I don't know if it can exclude some creatures.
Gravity Shield is actually very useful; most cards are just situational.  Gravity Shield might not help when you're playing against a Shrieker rush(for example), but it would help against a Scarab rush.
For the actually concept, how will Chimera'ing monsters be beneficial?  Because they're gravity pulled?  I think if it's code-able, it might be a bit OP, since if there are at least two attacking creatures on the opponent's side, they'll all eventually be fused into a giant gravity pulled mesh and die.
Also, how does Magnetism lead to fusion? :P
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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298344#msg298344
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2011, 06:18:06 am »
Chimera combines ALL of the creatures on your/the opponent's side at that moment, but I don't know if it can exclude some creatures.
I looked at Chimera when making this and it seems to me that Chimera only combines everything when played from your hand. I don't think it would be the same if it was spawned on the field like how mutation works but I'm not 100% on that.

Also, how does Magnetism lead to fusion?
Magnets attract each other forcing the creatures to come together and i guess it could be implied that its a very very strong charge which would lead to fusion

Thanks for the feedback and the welcome

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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298448#msg298448
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2011, 09:46:39 am »
This shield will combine all the weaker low hp creatures of opponent into a single pile with gravity pull. Then you can finish them all with the combined attack of all your creatures. (Is that the real objective ? See the note below this post for my question)

This shield is strong against smaller creatures while gravity shield works against big creatures. This makes it a good secondary shield for gravity. It will combine all the 1 hp creatures into a single creature with the opponent's first wave attack itself and the others will slowly begin to form their own chimera's if they attack at the same time.

For the concept, just imagine the attacking creatures getting magnetized and combines with another magnetized creature to become one single creature. It is a wonderful concept that suits gravity perfectly.


Overall, a very impressive card for your first one.


Note :  If a chimera is newly formed it won't be magnetized again due to the momentum. Then it is only possible for the creatures that gets magnetized at the same single turn to combine into a chimera. The other creatures that gets magnetized will form seperate chimeras. Do the seperate chimera's ultimately combine together with each other to form a giant single chimera ?
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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298566#msg298566
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2011, 02:57:49 pm »
If a chimera is newly formed it won't be magnetized again due to the momentum. Then it is only possible for the creatures that gets magnetized at the same single turn to combine into a chimera. The other creatures that gets magnetized will form seperate chimeras. Do the seperate chimera's ultimately combine together with each other to form a giant single chimera ?
Since the card would be OP if once a single chimera was formed due to the shield's effect it absorbed all of the creatures on the opponents field as if they played a chimera from their hand, the chimeras formed from magnetism should only absorb the magnetized creatures. Therefore since newly created chimeras don't absorb all creatures on the field a new one wouldn't absorb other chimeras on the field just steal their gravity pull.

As an example of why it should work this way is if your up against a light deck with a hope shield and several photons and a few light dragons, it seems to me a bit OP if the light dragons get absorbed just because the photons are magnetized

So i guess the only way to combine the chimeras created from this shield would be to lobotomize their momentum so they can be magnetized.


I hope i answered your question sorry if my logic is a bit all over the place and thank you for the complement

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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298579#msg298579
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2011, 03:19:55 pm »
i think one way to test this would be to PU a chimera on field.

Edit: I think it will add stats to any chimera in play.
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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298616#msg298616
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2011, 04:14:06 pm »
Well I tested it and if you PU a chimera currently on the field it does indeed absorb everything else on your field which does present a problem for my card since the current mechanics of chimera would make the shield OP. I suppose I could make a new creature similar to chimera but comes out magnetized instead of momentumed that way it would absorb any other creatures that gets magnetized and there wouldn't be multiple of them

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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg298872#msg298872
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 10:11:42 pm »
Based on the looks of the magnet on the shield I'm guessing you used an image from another source. If you did can you please provide the link?

The Ion card needs to credit Zanzarino as the artist for the elemental marks.

Anyway, welcome to CI&A!  While I do agree with most people that the effect probably needs to be reworked spawning an Ion creature with a special effect might work. Perhaps make it have a chance to spawn a 0 | 5 Ion with Gravity Pull?

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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg299186#msg299186
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 02:56:41 pm »
Good change. Creating an Ion was a nice substitution for Chimera.

I don't understand why is this idea underrated so far. I think it's a perfect idea for a new gravity shield. Maybe it's because it needs a bit more better art.
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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg299266#msg299266
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 04:51:09 pm »
I don't understand why is this idea underrated so far. I think it's a perfect idea for a new gravity shield. Maybe it's because it needs a bit more better art.
Thanks for the support and its the best I could do with what I have. I don't have any actual image creating software other than paint so if anyone wants to send me better images I'd be more than happy to swap it out and credit you.

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Re: Magnetic Shield | Magnetic Shield https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23410.msg302364#msg302364
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2011, 04:33:38 pm »
Thanks for the support and its the best I could do with what I have. I don't have any actual image creating software other than paint so if anyone wants to send me better images I'd be more than happy to swap it out and credit you.
Personally I think hand-made art is always a sign of the card maker's determination and creativity to express their idea. :) Tossing a single image into the card box is much easier to do than to draw a (fairly) nice image using only MSPaint. ;)

That said, I'll take your word that you drew the Magnetic Shield by hand (it doesn't appear to be something you took off a random site I believe after doing a few searches - the image doesn't seem 3D enough to be copy and pasted). The shield itself is pretty awesome, and personally, fighting these little 'mini-chimeras' on the field sound pretty awesome. :D

 

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