Gamble | Wager

[Saynt]

NAME: Gamble ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 1  TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Flip a coin. If heads, draw 2 cards. If tails, discard a card from your hand. Flip 2 coins if you control an Hourglass.	NAME: Wager ELEMENT: Entropy COST: 1  TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Flip a coin. If heads, draw 3 cards. If tails, discard a card from your hand. Flip 2 coins if you control an Hourglass.

ART: Saynt IDEA: Saynt NOTES: Card cannot be used if you have no cards in your hand, and the second coin flip will not function if you have no cards in your hand. SERIES: Coin flips

[Flayne]

hmm, can you please explain how this differs from Entropy's function as a random and luck element and its description in the beginning of the game? where it talks about Entropy's relation with gambling.

[Saynt]

Entropy isn't completely dependent upon probabilities, it just so happens that disorder is by its very definition a non-regular state of being. Of course, if everything in the universe was orderly, then everything could be determined beforehand. It is because of disorder that absolute determinism remains outside the reach of mere mortals. Though if you think about it, probabilities, determinism, and specifically fate have more to do with Time rather than Entropy.

[Flayne]

Entropy isn't completely dependent upon probabilities, it just so happens that disorder is by its very definition a non-regular state of being. Of course, if everything in the universe was orderly, then everything could be determined beforehand. It is because of disorder that absolute determinism remains outside the reach of mere mortals. Though if you think about it, probabilities, determinism, and specifically fate have more to do with Time rather than Entropy.

In Metagame terms, with time there is no such thing with probabilities, because of cards such as precognition where only facts are seen and not probabilities.
Probabilities is something  could familiarize itself with because of cards such as Chaos bolt, mutation, druid, etc. endless possibilities.

[Saynt]

Time and Entropy are practically linked because of probabilities though... Entropy drives time forward, by bringing random events and decay, whereas the direction of time directly influences the amount of Entropy that exists. If time were to go backwards, a glass would fix itself, and there would be no probabilities because the past is fixed, however, when time moves forward, everything is determined by probabilities and events in the far-future cannot be accurately predicted because of the existence of Entropy (Fate Egg is an example of probability in time, also, Precognition lets you see cards in the hand, but not in the deck).

[XYTWO]

Not everything random is , and not everything is random. I feel that although the theming should be changed, this fits as a card.

[Flayne]

It seems I have to make myself more clear:

My main concern, is that this is part of a series called coin flips, with Which I assume coin flips are applied to at least 5 other elements besides this one.
Lets just say that probability is of  and  , what about the other elements? How can you justify it for those elements?

[storyteller]

implement this immediately

[Saynt]

Coin flips can be used by other elements when the skill fits thematically, and it would require  or  quanta to use. In fact, the coin flip itself can be used to denote the cost to using an active skill. For example:

Double Edge
Earth
3 
Weapon
5|5
Weapon: deal 5 damage.
 : If heads, deal 3 extra damage. If tails, receive 3 damage.

[moomoose]

im not sure how thematically an hourglass is associated with gambling, or how time is associated with gambling.  the only link to time i see is the mechanic of the card relates to drawing a card.  that's a fairly weak association.

nor do i see what the above example of double edge has to do with earth.

[Saynt]

im not sure how thematically an hourglass is associated with gambling, or how time is associated with gambling.  the only link to time i see is the mechanic of the card relates to drawing a card.  that's a fairly weak association.

nor do i see what the above example of double edge has to do with earth.

Where else would it fit? The chance aspect of it could fit  , but actual gambling isn't exactly the embodiment of chaos.

Earth is aligned with metals. It's fairly reasonable to assume that a double-edged weapon is made with metal.

[Jenkar]

Where else would it fit? The chance aspect of it could fit  , but actual gambling isn't exactly the embodiment of chaos.

It is not, but it's heavily linked to chaos.

Earth is aligned with metals. It's fairly reasonable to assume that a double-edged weapon is made with metal.

Using this argument,
Titan,
Poseidon,
Long Sword
Gavel
ect would be earth. Problem.