Frog Staff | Life Staff

[rohlfo]

Originally this was one for Nik_V's series, my idea of a weapon for life. That series is on hold, so posted as stand alone weapon now.
It recycles an idea I had for my champions/behemoth series.
This is my first weapon and I realise I'm not that good with weapon costing/balance, so feedback welcome

NAME: Frog Staff ELEMENT: Life COST: 5 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: 2|5 (Flying) TEXT: Weapon: Deal 2 damage at the end of your turn.   : Summon a Horned Frog.	NAME: Life Staff ELEMENT: Life COST: 5 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: 3|6 (Flying) TEXT: Weapon:  Deal 3 damage at the end of your turn.   : Summon a creature.

ART: rohlfo IDEA: rohlfo NOTES: For both, ability can be used only once per turn. For Life Staff: 20% Horned Frog 20% Rustler 20% Cockatrice 20% Forest Spirit 20% Forest Scorpion SERIES:

options/issues/etc
- cost?
- attack|HP?
- % for Life Staff? (leave out Rustler/Forest Spirit)?
- ability cost?

[EmeraldTiger]

I think people will call for a higher cost.

[ZephyrPhantom]

No offense, but do you realize how cheap and rushable this is?  You could just make a deck with this, Animate Weapon, some pillars, and then probably throw in some cross element support with a mark if needed.


Tiger is correct, this card needs a higher cost. I'd say increase the ability cost to 3  for both cards and in relation to FFQ increase the playing cost to at least 5  .  Also, capitalize "Deal" and "Summon".

[rohlfo]

This is my first weapon and I realise I'm not that good with weapon costing/balance

As you can see, this is definitely the case. I will think it through and try and come up with something better. Tricky with the summon cost, since if it's too high I think it wouldn't get much interest as the creatures are cheaper, but perhaps 3 is still ok, and then making weapon cost more.

The idea in general though - good one or a bit meh?

[ZephyrPhantom]

This is my first weapon and I realise I'm not that good with weapon costing/balance

As you can see, this is definitely the case. I will think it through and try and come up with something better. Tricky with the summon cost, since if it's too high I think it wouldn't get much interest as the creatures are cheaper, but perhaps 3 is still ok, and then making weapon cost more.

The idea in general though - good one or a bit meh?

It's good for a first, I'm just trying to give constructive criticisim, but lol - Firefly Queens would be angry at this stealing their role in the rush/mutant decks.

[rohlfo]

This is my first weapon and I realise I'm not that good with weapon costing/balance

As you can see, this is definitely the case. I will think it through and try and come up with something better. Tricky with the summon cost, since if it's too high I think it wouldn't get much interest as the creatures are cheaper, but perhaps 3 is still ok, and then making weapon cost more.

The idea in general though - good one or a bit meh?

It's good for a first, I'm just trying to give constructive criticisim, but lol - Firefly Queens would be angry at this stealing their role in the rush/mutant decks.

I know, it's what I need to improve this (and other) cards. I guess FFQ might be, but if an element is called "life" it should have a magic staff to create little critters (imo!)

[OldTrees]

It is a good idea. Keep the effect just adjust the packaging (casting and activation costs)

This is a weapon that truly represents Life as well as the Druidic Staff does.

[rohlfo]

updated, feedback welcome 

[Glitch]

This card is better than druidic staff.

[OldTrees]

This card is better than druidic staff.

It costs more to.
However I assume you meant it was better even after taking the cost into account.
What would be the balanced price in your opinion?

[Glitch]

The ability is just OP'd.  I'd take an infinite creature spawn over 5 healing any day.  Hell, I'd just stick with the unupped version.  This card is as broken as mitosis but it's not vulnerable to CC.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Weapon Cost:
Unupped:
Attack : +0 (Dagger)
Ability Threat: +6 (FFQ Comparison)
Bonuses: -1 (Expensive Skill)
Final Cost : 5 

Upped(assuming the creatures spawned are unupped):
Attack: +0 (Dirk is superior to it)
Ability Threat: +6 (FFQ Comparison, is a bit more chancy, but balances with you possibly getting better cards)
Bonuses: -2 (Upgraded, Expensive)
Final Cost: 4 


Change the cost to 5  | 4  .

If people consider the card OP, here are some nerfs you could do:
Raise the casting cost to 6  | 5  .
Raise the ability cost to 4  .


Oh, and nice art!

EDIT: Gl1tch, while it's true it's a powerful effect, keep in mind it's a weapon. Weapons do powerful stuff.