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Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1047857#msg1047857
« on: March 04, 2013, 04:14:08 am »
NAME:
Flagbearer
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
:air :air : Rally
All other creatures you own gain +2/+0 for one turn.
NAME:
Flagwaver
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 2
TEXT:
:air :air : Zeal
All other creatures you own gain +1/+0. Effect reverts when Flagwaver leaves play.

ART:
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IDEA:
KrackoCloud
NOTES:
With sufficient quanta, Flagbearer essentially keeps the rest of your creatures at +2 attack.
Flagwaver's effect stacks, but the bonus only lasts as long as it lives.
Buffs to other creatures do not apply to self.

Flags draw lots of attention on themselves, since they need to be destroyed before the rest of your creatures wreak havoc on the opponent.
Pretty cheap too, so they have harassing potential.

Promotes Earth/Air. Can give Earth an offensive boost if adequately protected, or can be exploited by Air with Dives.
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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1047874#msg1047874
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 06:00:00 am »
1 :underworld upkeep is equivalent to 1 card.
3 :earth + 2 cards + 1|2 + 1 turn for 2 attack for all your creatures...does that sound fair? Compare:


Permanent buffing would be worse, since that's equivalent to stacking eclipse.

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1047875#msg1047875
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 06:02:24 am »
Very neat idea, and very thematic. Looking forward to seeing this move on ;)
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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1047890#msg1047890
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 06:55:32 am »
1 :underworld upkeep is equivalent to 1 card.
3 :earth + 2 cards + 1|2 + 1 turn for 2 attack for all your creatures...does that sound fair? Compare:


Permanent buffing would be worse, since that's equivalent to stacking eclipse.
Sorry, I know that my cards probably have glaring flaws, but I can't really figure out everything you're saying. Are you saying unupped is UP because it costs too much and upped it OP because it stacks?

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048220#msg1048220
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 02:57:22 am »
1 :fire upkeep is equivalent to 1 :underworld is equivalent to 1 card.
Flagbearer is 3 :earth + 2 cards + 1 turn for 1|2 stats and +2 attack to everything. (It would be 3|2 itself, which would be a 2 :underworld creature otherwise).
3 :earth + 2 cards ~= 5 :earth + 1 card = 5 :underworld + 1 card.

Eclipse is an UPGRADED card that costs 4 :underworld + 1 card and only has an attack buff to certain creatures.

What I'm saying right now is that your unupped card is as good as, if not better than, an upped card.

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048224#msg1048224
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 03:06:28 am »
1 :fire upkeep is equivalent to 1 :underworld is equivalent to 1 card.
Flagbearer is 3 :earth + 2 cards + 1 turn for 1|2 stats and +2 attack to everything. (It would be 3|2 itself, which would be a 2 :underworld creature otherwise).
3 :earth + 2 cards ~= 5 :earth + 1 card = 5 :underworld + 1 card.

Eclipse is an UPGRADED card that costs 4 :underworld + 1 card and only has an attack buff to certain creatures.

What I'm saying right now is that your unupped card is as good as, if not better than, an upped card.
Oh, alright. Time to up costs, then.

Another thing of note: I feel like Flag could also be :air or :fire because of its offensive ability. Any thoughts?

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048227#msg1048227
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 03:08:56 am »
The fact that the flag is being waved makes it sound :air-y.
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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048234#msg1048234
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2013, 03:25:02 am »
Yeah, I thought so too. But at the same time, so many Air creatures are airborne, while flagbearers are for ground armies.
It seems silly for them to be leading around pegasi and fairies.

However, these elements could apply to the card's ability too. So it could work better if Rally was :air?

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048262#msg1048262
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2013, 04:52:00 am »
That could work. Maybe change "rally" to "wave", and change the cost to :air

Then you would have to make the upped also called a Flagbearer (maybe an Elite one or something)
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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048268#msg1048268
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 05:04:01 am »
Well themes aside, is Earth/Air a legitimate duo? I feel like Earth/Fire and Fire/Air work, but not so sure about this one...

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048274#msg1048274
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 05:07:54 am »
Why not?  It just means they have to be built around?  In any case, I see this being used for some Wardens...

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Re: Flagbearer | Flagwaver https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=47410.msg1048277#msg1048277
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 05:11:29 am »
If anything, you are promoting a new synergy ;)

Go ahead and do it if you think it fits.
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