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Re: Wild Piggy Bank | Wild Piggy Bank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34792.msg439300#msg439300
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 07:07:55 pm »
i dont look at the relation between the two cards to determine balance, usually one is just better than the other in some way.  nova/sn generate more net quanta, the immos generate more net quanta.  5-10 just happens to be the boost from the upgrade.  and it will probably be lowered to 4-8 if i ever redo the cards.

if you want, you can compare it to rustler, whos quanta generation doubles :p
I have found that the upped environment is balanced in part through the balance of the unupped environment and a semi constant power relationship between unupped and upped. In other words, for both cards to be balanced the unupped and the upgrade need to be balanced. A balanced unupped but an imbalanced upgrade necessitates an unbalanced upped.

Leaf Dragon does not produce double the quanta Rustler would have produced.
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Re: Wild Piggy Bank | Wild Piggy Bank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34792.msg439326#msg439326
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2011, 08:01:31 pm »
whoops, misremembered the basic rustler.

still i feel if anything the basic is slightly under powered at 4, okay at five,  the upgraded is okay at either 8 or 10 given other related existing quanta generating cards
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Re: Wild Piggy Bank | Wild Piggy Bank https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34792.msg439373#msg439373
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2011, 09:54:26 pm »
whoops, misremembered the basic rustler.

still i feel if anything the basic is slightly under powered at 4, okay at five,  the upgraded is okay at either 8 or 10 given other related existing quanta generating cards
Cost: 2 :life +1card +1turn delay +duo
Effect: generate X quanta

I agree that upgraded somewhere around 8-10 is balanced. However I think even 5 is UP for the unupped because I estimate the cost to be equivalent to 5 quanta.
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