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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg88470#msg88470
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 01:16:28 pm »
Ehh I would suggest that it's impossible to get a 0 hp creature since it would die right away.
We have Spark though so there is precedent...

For a 1|1 creature you would have 100% chance of getting a N|0 creature.

For a 2|2 it would be 3/5 chance of a n|0 creature

2|0 and 0|2
2|1 and 0|1
1|1 and 1|1
1|2 and 1|0
2|2 and 0|0

For a 3|3 there would be about 50%

For a 12|12 it would be really low % chance...

Does everyone think 0 hp should not be allowed?

BTW, can anybody figure out the formula for the odds?
Chance of getting a N|0 creature is (1/X)*100%    (X being the total hp it has before dispersion)

However, the spark is supposed to be with 0 hp since it doesn't cost a thing, however this costs something and shouldn't make a creature with 0 hp since it would only deal damage for 1 turn.

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg88619#msg88619
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 04:56:05 pm »
Ehh I would suggest that it's impossible to get a 0 hp creature since it would die right away.
We have Spark though so there is precedent...

For a 1|1 creature you would have 100% chance of getting a N|0 creature.

For a 2|2 it would be 3/5 chance of a n|0 creature

2|0 and 0|2
2|1 and 0|1
1|1 and 1|1
1|2 and 1|0
2|2 and 0|0

For a 3|3 there would be about 50%

For a 12|12 it would be really low % chance...

Does everyone think 0 hp should not be allowed?

BTW, can anybody figure out the formula for the odds?
Chance of getting a N|0 creature is (1/X)*100%    (X being the total hp it has before dispersion)

However, the spark is supposed to be with 0 hp since it doesn't cost a thing, however this costs something and shouldn't make a creature with 0 hp since it would only deal damage for 1 turn.
I've had sparks generate from fate eggs, and mutations, only to die right away, and these cost quanta. So I think 0 hp should be possible.

Nice card idea.

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg88624#msg88624
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2010, 05:03:39 pm »
Very nice idea. As a side note are they mutated creatures as well? ie do they have the ability of the creature they become or nothing: I play this on a creature and get a Otyugh and a Ulitharid do they have their abilites or are they flat line (ie after loboed).

I can see great use with this in a mutation deck as you can split creatures faster that you don't want and then mutate them into bigger things. Also helps with Emphatic Bonds.

Good work.

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg89030#msg89030
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2010, 01:16:25 am »
Okay so I am kind of hearing that n|0 should be possible.

How about the creatures?

Abominations for unupped and mutations for upped?

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg92806#msg92806
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2010, 11:51:59 pm »
Okay I am sticking with 0 Hp as a possibility, making this card essentially pointless on a 1|1 creature, which is fine.

With no other input, I have decided the creatures will be random creatures with any ability they would normally come with. Of course their stats will be random and sum to the original creatures. The new creatures would be upped if the original creature was upped, and unupped if the original creature was unupped.

Any last minute thoughts? I am putting it in the crucible if not.

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg110287#msg110287
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 08:52:21 am »
What happens with the original creature's ability?

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg112657#msg112657
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 04:44:05 am »
What happens with the original creature's ability?

Lost, along with the original creatures and replaced by two random creatures (whose combined hp and attack sum to the original creature's) which may or may not have a skill.

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Re: Disperse | Dismantle https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg330150#msg330150
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 08:27:33 pm »
What happens when you play this card on an antimattered amethyst dragon (-12|6) ?
Could you get two creatures with 36|2 and -48|4?

 

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