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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249651#msg249651
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 01:40:44 am »
Quote from: OldTrees on January 17, 2011, 01:35:50 am
Explosion on a creature is worth only 2-3quanta
Wow, that's pretty low... IMHO, reusable PC (it is what it is) should cost a bit more (or being worth 1 :fire adds to the cost)
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249660#msg249660
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 01:47:53 am »
Quote from: Krathos on January 17, 2011, 01:40:44 am
Quote from: OldTrees on January 17, 2011, 01:35:50 am
Explosion on a creature is worth only 2-3quanta
Wow, that's pretty low... IMHO, reusable PC (it is what it is) should cost a bit more (or being worth 1 :fire adds to the cost)
PC costs only 4 on Pulvy.
Venom costs 3 on Arsenic but only 2 on Forest Scorpion.

However I do think that while PC on a stick is cheap the stick should not be (aka dilute it with higher stats and higher cost)
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249678#msg249678
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 02:02:46 am »
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

OldTrees,

I hate to add an attack power to any of my Avatars (mainly because of the way I imagined them to be and their unique qualities), but if I hear more people wanting changes there, I'll be sure to change that too.

For now, I'll go ahead and up the costs for the skills.

Before I do, how about this?

It costs 3 fire quanta to destroy 1 perm (unupped)

It costs 2 fire quanta to destroy 1 perm (upped)

And, take away the ability to destroy more than one (since I hear that it may be OP?).
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249691#msg249691
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 02:16:03 am »
Quote from: Ignion on January 17, 2011, 02:02:46 am
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

OldTrees,

I hate to add an attack power to any of my Avatars (mainly because of the way I imagined them to be and their unique qualities), but if I hear more people wanting changes there, I'll be sure to change that too.
Good policy.
For now, I'll go ahead and up the costs for the skills.
I was talking about Casting Cost not Activation Cost. It is currently UP IMO.
Before I do, how about this?

It costs 3 fire quanta to destroy 1 perm (unupped)

It costs 2 fire quanta to destroy 1 perm (upped)

And, take away the ability to destroy more than one (since I hear that it may be OP?).
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249725#msg249725
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 02:48:04 am »
Oh ok. I must have misunderstood you.

What about the upped skill? Should I retain the ability to destroy 2? Or, should I just make it 1?
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249730#msg249730
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 02:51:54 am »
Quote from: Ignion on January 17, 2011, 02:48:04 am
Oh ok. I must have misunderstood you.

What about the upped skill? Should I retain the ability to destroy 2? Or, should I just make it 1?
Make it 1
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249745#msg249745
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 03:14:53 am »
Done!  :)
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg249942#msg249942
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2011, 09:41:53 am »
Quote from: Krathos on January 17, 2011, 01:00:49 am
Remember that destroy costs 3 :entropy and no creature has it, and if you want it, you need to use BE in a small creature... What I mean, reusable PC can't be cheap, and IDK if Zanz would like it.
Absolutely. I totally agree.
Moreover, fire already has a very good PC (explosion deflag). I don't think adding a reusable one would be fair ...
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg250051#msg250051
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 01:27:04 pm »
In this case, you could consider tweaking the ability to be more CCish..
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg250182#msg250182
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 03:59:49 pm »
What do you guys think of this one then?

Unupped: Heatwave - While this card is on the field, all non-fire creatures' attacks are reduced by 1 each turn.

Upped: Heat Stroke - While this card is on the field, all non-fire creature's HPs are reduced by 1 each turn.

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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg250190#msg250190
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 04:05:44 pm »
Quote from: Ignion on January 17, 2011, 03:59:49 pm
What do you guys think of this one then?

Unupped: Heatwave - While this card is on the field, all non-fire creatures' attacks are reduced by 1 each turn.

Upped: Heat Stroke - While this card is on the field, all non-fire creature's HPs are reduced by 1 each turn.

:)
I like these ideas better and they are in range +/-2 :fire of your desired casting costs
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Re: Fire Avatar | Corona Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19619.msg250201#msg250201
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2011, 04:15:30 pm »
Good choice, the effects are more balanced now. What about turning the first one into -1HP every other turn? Just a suggestion, but it may be more versatile as it is now.
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