Faustian Bargain | Faustian Bargain

[Elite arbiter]

Yes, but might need to go to 3-5 hp lost per turn, and perhaps both maximum and minimum. Remember that Vampires are in the same element and a single minor vapm covers your deckout.

Although this does give nice fun ideas with Dark/Time insane draw decks.

[furballdn]

this+one sanctuary=never decking out. You could make a 30 card deck that stalls your opponent out just because of the sheer healing you get and the low hp drain. I say you need to raise the hp drain that this card drains when you deck out. 2 is way too low. Even 5 hp loss per negative card is pretty low.

[OldTrees]

Since this comment was missed

Each turn of Antideckout is worth 3elemental quanta.
2 hp << 3 elemental quanta.

15 hp ~= 3 elemental quanta IMO.

[Xenocidius]

So you're suggesting that it should drain 15 HP for each turn of anti-deckout? Keep in mind that playing more than one would cause them each to drain health.

[OldTrees]

So you're suggesting that it should drain 15 HP for each turn of anti-deckout? Keep in mind that playing more than one would cause them each to drain health.

I am suggesting each turn on average cost 15hp. I was not directly commenting on per card cost. However I would never use more than 1 of these for antideckout.

[Xenocidius]

The thing is, many people would use it for healing. And since you'd generally want more than one for the healing to be effective, they'd have little choice but for each of them to drain their health when they run out of cards.

[Pineapple]

The thing is, many people would use it for healing. And since you'd generally want more than one for the healing to be effective, they'd have little choice but for each of them to drain their health when they run out of cards.

The thing is, many people wouldn't bother with this for healing unless they're running some sort of 60-card timebow.
So, in the end, it'll just be a cheaper alternative to the eternity+safety rewind package.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Ok, the negative effect's been changed to losing 1 permanent each turn you have 0 cards.

It's cheaper than Eternity, but now more unreliable since it has a chance to destroy itself (and if you add PA, expect to lose a lot of other cards if you stall too long).

[Naesala]

Can it destroy permanents that have enchant artifact on them? if not, then it could be enchanted to protect it from itself.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Can it destroy permanents that have enchant artifact on them? if not, then it could be enchanted to protect it from itself.

No, it can't destroy Enchanted permanents.
However, if there are no other permanents, this card self-destructs since you can no longer pay the upkeep (Draw one card or sacrifice a permanent), similar to Flooding.

[OldTrees]

I really like the new upkeep cost. Air Nymph or Pillars would be the primary fuel sources.

[Rutarete]

I really like the new upkeep cost. Air Nymph or Pillars would be the primary fuel sources.

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