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Elements the Game => Level 1 - Crucible => Card Ideas and Art => Crucible Archive => Topic started by: mildlyfrightenedboy on September 20, 2011, 11:24:59 am

Title: Fan | Fan
Post by: mildlyfrightenedboy on September 20, 2011, 11:24:59 am
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227052/fan.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd227051/fanornate.png)
NAME:
Fan
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
5  :air
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
:air :air : Fan The Flames
The target  :fire or :air creature gains the skill " :fire : Ablaze".
NAME:
Fan
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
6  :air
TYPE:
Permanent
TEXT:
:air :air : Fan The Flames
The target  :fire or :air  creature gains the skill " :fire :fire : Growth".
ART:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_fan
IDEA:
MildlyFrightenedBoy
(Yes, the idea is mine.  You may have heard Rutarete talking about a friend
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31192.0.htmlthat was trying to come up with an idea based on this.  That was me.)
NOTES:
Fan The Flames can only be used on  :fire creatures and :air creatures.  If it is used on a creature that already has a skill, it replaces the original skill.  Even if it is used on an :air creature, the skill still costs fire quanta.
SERIES:
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: atomiton on September 20, 2011, 11:49:38 am
i love it. i need this card.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: RRQJ on September 20, 2011, 06:41:50 pm
it's a neat idea, but I don't see how this is practical.  It's an air card, with an air ability cost, that can only be used on fire creatures.  So to use this, you must have at least a duo.  And what fire creature would you use this on? asheater? the dragon is already such a high damage creature that using this would probably not be worth the consistency loss.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: mildlyfrightenedboy on September 20, 2011, 10:37:50 pm
it's a neat idea, but I don't see how this is practical.  It's an air card, with an air ability cost, that can only be used on fire creatures.  So to use this, you must have at least a duo.  And what fire creature would you use this on? asheater? the dragon is already such a high damage creature that using this would probably not be worth the consistency loss.
Play against Fire Queen.  You will change your mind.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: Rutarete on September 20, 2011, 11:33:56 pm
I see Destroyer Rushes functioning without :earth!

Example:
by Rutarete
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
??? ??? ??? 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 8pr

Mark of Air, of course. ??? = Ornate Fan

THe deck could probably use some work, but I think you see the point. Think how Earthquanta-less Destroyer rushes could change the metagame!
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: RRQJ on September 21, 2011, 12:55:05 am
it's a neat idea, but I don't see how this is practical.  It's an air card, with an air ability cost, that can only be used on fire creatures.  So to use this, you must have at least a duo.  And what fire creature would you use this on? asheater? the dragon is already such a high damage creature that using this would probably not be worth the consistency loss.
Play against Fire Queen.  You will change your mind.
Fire Queen has no fire creatures?

I see Destroyer Rushes functioning without :earth!

Example:
by RRQJ
Hover over cards for details, click for permalink
Deck import code : [Select]
??? ??? ??? 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 8pr

Mark of Air, of course. ??? = Ornate Fan
THe deck could probably use some work, but I think you see the point. Think how Earthquanta-less Destroyer rushes could change the metagame!
I think I would rather just use golems with :earth. Faster and more consistent.  Because you've essentially traded :earth with :air, and you need way more :air quanta than :earth to do the same thing.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: artimies7 on September 21, 2011, 01:02:26 am
FINALLY, A USE FOR UPPED FIREFLIES + FFQ'S.

I WORSHIP THE GROUND ON WHICH THIS CARD STANDS.

Edit: I just had a dream about a 17|17 Elite Firefly. With ablaze. //lovingit
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: mildlyfrightenedboy on September 21, 2011, 02:17:11 am
Riiight, that was a mistake.  It is supposed to read " :air or  :fire creatures".  I either am changing it or already have changed it.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: furballdn on September 21, 2011, 02:29:43 am
I like this card! A good way to link fire and air closer together and make upgraded FFQs more useful.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: Naesala on September 21, 2011, 02:59:27 am
Excellent idea.
Title: Re: Fan | Ornate Fan
Post by: RRQJ on September 21, 2011, 04:18:26 am
Ok, now it would see use. 
Title: Re: Fan | Fan
Post by: Kuroaitou on September 24, 2011, 07:35:59 am
CURATOR COMMENT
-Please fix the COST section so that it matches the card image exactly. ('5 :air' instead of '5')
Title: Re: Fan | Fan
Post by: Haltar Dhrim on September 24, 2011, 08:07:48 am
I love it!
But if you change Elite Firefly's ability it won't produce fire anymore, so you must be careful when using the Fan...
You can't use it on all of your Fireflies... Very well balanced!
Title: Re: Fan | Fan
Post by: ScaredGuy on September 24, 2011, 01:34:56 pm
This is a great idea, this + UG would be nice.
Title: Re: Fan | Fan
Post by: mildlyfrightenedboy on September 24, 2011, 05:28:20 pm
I love it!
But if you change Elite Firefly's ability it won't produce fire anymore, so you must be careful when using the Fan...
You can't use it on all of your Fireflies... Very well balanced!
I just realized that the upgraded one might be worse than the unupgraded one for this reason:
If you use this card in a FFQ deck, you won't need any fire pillars - the fireflies will generate enough.
The upgraded version gives a skill that costs 2  :fire, while the unupgraded card only costs 1  :fire.  This means that, to have a positive  :fire income at the end of every turn, one would have to have twice as many unfanned fireflies with the upgraded version than with the upgraded version, were you to use the skill every turn.
I will probably either:
- Change the upgraded card so that it is identical to the unupgraded card except it costs one less quanta
- Make the upgraded card cost more so that I can justify making it give " :fire : Growth" instead.
- Make the skill of the upgraded card cost one more  :air (for the same reason as above)
I will open a poll shortly.
blarg: Rutarete,RRQJ