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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg151269#msg151269
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 06:44:27 am »
? umm i can try and refind it? i dont even remember what i searched to find it though.. ill probably get a diff picture.. anyway.. instead of commenting on the art can i get curator comments on the card effect.. art really is the last thing im worried about. that can be changed later and made better.
I think this card has definite potential. ;)

But here's the thing - Chimera is sort of Gravity's territory, because this essentially the same card (Chimera) in the form of a spell (can be applied to either player). Assuming you're dealing with a lot of creatures on the field at once, playing this can potentially act as a OHKO (almost) as they take damage upon gaining the Chimera. Also, as midg3333 stated above me - a quick rewind, mutate, or several of your own creatures can take it down pretty easily, rendering the opponent useless of their attackers.

A fun idea I thought about was this - why not have it as a 'continuous' mutation spell?

For example: you target a creature with this, and they get a special 'debuff' (similar to infect/poison/gravity pull) that stays on no matter what. Each turn, the creature mutates into another creature (upgraded possibly?) and the owner of that creature takes damage equal to half its attack. This way, you only affect one creature at a time (rather than combining everything into a Chimera and instant-killing it with enough damage or a spell), and it also can be used on your creatures, assuming you'd be willing to deal with the damage you take from it constantly changing all the time. A mistake each turn, perhaps...

Just my suggestion. :) Unless the opponent has spammed dragons and growth creatures, this card's after effect won't do much to save you (unless you can remove the chimera the turn you play this).

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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg151293#msg151293
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2010, 08:42:46 am »
I see. yes it could be easily abused in this current form. My thoughts on it were that yes the owner takes damage = to 1/2 the atk of the chimera but if i give it to the opponent unless i CAN do something about the creature it is gonna hurt me more.
options:
something like what the curator said..
or give said chimera immaterial ?

maybe make it an activated ability on a permanent to cause continuous mutation to a target creature.
make the upgraded do elite creatures. if balancing would be needed make it so the cost is high enough to activate and maybe give it a counter for how long the effect lasts..
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg154433#msg154433
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 12:01:51 pm »
any suggestions? i think i may make this a permanent that does random mutations.. elite mutations for upped form.
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173232#msg173232
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2010, 04:10:42 am »
Changes soon: permanent that randomly mutates a creature on the field.. upgraded makes them elite creatures.
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173233#msg173233
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2010, 04:10:58 am »
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173249#msg173249
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2010, 04:31:58 am »
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Please don't spam, that is a quad post. Don't do that, there is a modify button you know.

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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173253#msg173253
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2010, 04:38:40 am »
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Please don't spam, that is a quad post. Don't do that, there is a modify button you know.
sorry about that.. I didnt mean to. I clicked modify and all of a sudden i had a quoted one.. so i was trying to delete it but it didnt let me so i just made it a period as it was dumb having 2 of same post in row. they should put a X or something so i  can delete my own posts if i want to.
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173256#msg173256
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2010, 04:42:03 am »
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Please don't spam, that is a quad post. Don't do that, there is a modify button you know.
sorry about that.. I didnt mean to. I clicked modify and all of a sudden i had a quoted one.. so i was trying to delete it but it didnt let me so i just made it a period as it was dumb having 2 of same post in row. they should put a X or something so i  can delete my own posts if i want to.
It's fine but that is still a triple post :P Just refrain from doing such things in the future it's alright since it was not your fault.

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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173258#msg173258
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2010, 04:44:38 am »
lol yea.. i try not to spam.. hence i just modified all my posts instead of making a new post since i have a bunch of card ideas im trying to fix / put into crucible.
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173267#msg173267
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2010, 04:56:10 am »
This+rewind= win

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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173268#msg173268
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2010, 04:58:28 am »
This+rewind= win
U mean the original? or the new version?
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Re: Experimenter's Mistake | Master's Mistake https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11963.msg173317#msg173317
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2010, 07:14:37 am »
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I really liked Kuro's new idea. The idea of a chimera that I can play on my opponent just seems OP, but the continuous mutation idea sounds really interesting.

 

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