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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg81516#msg81516
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2010, 12:35:33 am »
You're too speedy SilentShadow, was just editing the notes to cover that. The N/4 is rounded down. So anything that costs less than 4 would only be increased by 2, anything between 4-7 by 3, from 8-11 by 4, etc.

Oh and I forgot a change:

Change 4: Dampener cost decreased to 4, Suppressor increased to 5.
Reason: The strength of the abilities between the two changed, so I wanted the cost to represent that.


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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg81554#msg81554
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2010, 01:53:05 am »
I love the new update.  This would really play havoc with all of the carefully-quanta-tuned PvP decks out there.  :)
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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82002#msg82002
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2010, 07:32:33 pm »
I'm definitely liking the new changes (with the upgraded version, an Improved Miracle would cost 17 (12 + 2 + N/4 [N = 12, so N/4 = 3]) :light quanta), and it seems much simpler to utilize in any deck (well, excluding ones that rely on Siphon Life or Congeal and whatnot). If you want this to be moved into the Crucible though, I suggest removing the title of 'formerly Shard of Sloth' to make it more uniform among the other cards.

Otherwise, loving the new concept, and it surely fits in with the Other theme (...the art is crazy though O.o).

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82040#msg82040
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2010, 08:05:35 pm »
True, I took out the Shard bit. Whats wrong with the art? When I found it I thought it fit the card quite well.

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82128#msg82128
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2010, 08:50:58 pm »
"the art is crazy though o_O"
what in a good way?
It looks WAAAYYYY cooler than it did before  8) good job ;)

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82239#msg82239
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2010, 09:50:19 pm »
True, I took out the Shard bit. Whats wrong with the art? When I found it I thought it fit the card quite well.
Oh, nothing's wrong with it at all! It's cool, but it's confusing and bizarre. So by crazy, I mean a 'good' kind of crazy.  :D Also, thanks for removing the shard bit. :)

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82283#msg82283
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2010, 10:37:53 pm »
Would Holy Flash become 2 :light and Luciferase 2 Other?

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg82476#msg82476
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2010, 02:37:21 am »
Would Holy Flash become 2 :light and Luciferase 2 Other?
Read the card notes, but to answer your question: no, they would stay at 0 cost.

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg86757#msg86757
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2010, 08:04:27 pm »
Would Holy Flash become 2 :light and Luciferase 2 Other?
Read the card notes, but to answer your question: no, they would stay at 0 cost.
This is a mistake.  If you're going to make spells cost more, make them all cost more.
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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg86764#msg86764
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2010, 08:09:44 pm »
Would Holy Flash become 2 :light and Luciferase 2 Other?
Read the card notes, but to answer your question: no, they would stay at 0 cost.
This is a mistake.  If you're going to make spells cost more, make them all cost more.
make all 0 ones cost 1 again
but then what element would they be? other?

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg86917#msg86917
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2010, 10:08:47 pm »
The way I think of it, this card is making it difficult to draw on the elemental forces needed to cast a spell. So if the elements needed to cast the spell are a whole 0 quanta, then there isn't all that much to suppress in the first place. Could be there are balancing reasons to increase their costs, but flavor wise I felt it made more sense not to.

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Re: Essence Dampener | Essence Suppressor https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7342.msg87264#msg87264
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2010, 03:25:16 am »
The way I think of it, this card is making it difficult to draw on the elemental forces needed to cast a spell. So if the elements needed to cast the spell are a whole 0 quanta, then there isn't all that much to suppress in the first place. Could be there are balancing reasons to increase their costs, but flavor wise I felt it made more sense not to.
Fair enough viewpoint I guess.  I figured the dampener/suppressor was inhibiting the ability to cast a spell independent of what the spell was--that's why I figured it should increase every spell cost.  Sort of like a mosquito buzzing in your ear while you're taking a test--the easy questions are still easy and the hard one's still hard, you just have to concentrate a little harder on each of them to answer them.
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