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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282246#msg282246
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2011, 04:42:40 am »
Well, thematically, it is using water to bring out the essence of creatures.   
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282249#msg282249
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2011, 04:52:00 am »
I mean, why does it absorb? I would want to understand what's the reasoning behind it. What I know is that it needs to be played quick to be good, and maybe the upkeep is the way to make it being able to be played fast, while not being too powerful, and harder to stack.
It has an absorb cost to decrease the quanta per turn to a possibly reasonable amount. At a casting cost of 4 :water I would expect it to act like 3-4|4-5 pillars most of the time. This would indicate that the assumed average number of creatures on the field per turn during games with this card would be 5-6. This was my estimate and I am not known for good estimations of this sort.
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282373#msg282373
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2011, 12:42:32 pm »
And yet noone talks about how it affects the opponent. o.o;

This thing gives them quanta, and you have to pay the price every round. The opponent is clearly getting a better deal out of it than the player who played the card!
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282377#msg282377
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2011, 12:53:22 pm »
I need to see wording for e-bond, because this supposed to benefit only the controller in the same manner as e-bond heals.
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282622#msg282622
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2011, 11:17:48 pm »
Sorry for any confusion. This is only supposed to help one player.

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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282753#msg282753
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2011, 02:10:47 am »
@ Nepycros does this wording work better for you?
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282768#msg282768
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2011, 02:27:05 am »
Yes. Now, at the very least, you'll get actual profit. Not to mention, mono-darkness decks can't Steal this because of the upkeep, so Devourer remains the only quanta-producing creature in its element. I say that's fair.
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg282773#msg282773
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2011, 02:35:06 am »
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg320278#msg320278
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2011, 12:24:31 pm »
One question that i have is, what are we allowed to do to an idea once it is here in Crucible?
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg366285#msg366285
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2011, 04:06:11 am »
I think we should try to revive this card in some way.

Seeing as it can help make mitosis decks more powerful, and also helps make mindgate even more powerful (because if you can get one enemy monster out, it can help you afford the rest), I think this needs a revival.

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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg367881#msg367881
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2011, 03:07:52 pm »
It sounds solid to me, the only fault I can think of is lack of voices to help point out where it would/wouldn't work...I can't think of a good idea for this outside of duo  :life :water.
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Re: Essence Charm | Essence Charm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21959.msg367893#msg367893
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2011, 04:01:45 pm »
I hate how it affects the opponent. After all, you paid the price, and even the upkeep, while they get more rewards.
huh? It doesn't affect your opponent at all.
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