Elemental Scale | Elemental Balance

[Ekki]

Else this card would just outright deny any fractal decks from working at all once this card is out.

In my opinion, that's the brighter side since fractal makes lots of people say "this card is OP with fractal"... I mean, it'd be ONE CARD that totally denies fractal, is there any other??

But I guess pillars/towers/pendulums should be out of the effect, like if you play 2 aether pillars, you won't have a increased cost because of that two cards... Else it'd be truely OP

[home_wreckaz]

Else this card would just outright deny any fractal decks from working at all once this card is out.

In my opinion, that's the brighter side since fractal makes lots of people say "this card is OP with fractal"... I mean, it'd be ONE CARD that totally denies fractal, is there any other??

But I guess pillars/towers/pendulums should be out of the effect, like if you play 2 aether pillars, you won't have a increased cost because of that two cards... Else it'd be truely OP

If you read which effect I canceled out, you would understand what I mean when I said truly OP.

If it went by creatures of that element in play, the moment somebody played RoL in an RoL/hope deck(those without light pillars), they are practically unable to play light cards without waiting two turns as the cost of any light card would be over the amount that their RoL is generating, doesn't make much sense to me. Going by creatures played on that turn still allowed them to play cards as long as their quantum can support the cost for each card they play.

[AnonymousRevival]

I think it can be cheaper by one or two.

[EmeraldTiger]

I went ahead made changes but provided a spoiler to the older version. I want to maintain the cost of this card as even numbers so if a cost change is needed, please stay within that restriction.

[AnonymousRevival]

The prices can be very expensive in the end.

[OldTrees]

This does make Fractal decks more expensive and it does slow down fractal,mono, and duo decks (in order of magnitude)

However you have to remember, how many cards do you play in a turn? At the beginning of the game we have a full hand, 7-8 cards, hopefully half filled with pillars. Then we draw 1 card per turn (with the exception of time) with about 1/4s of the cards being pillars.

So with this setup only decks that are waiting for a one turn mono combo, or fractal deck, or mindgate decks would be playing more than 1-2 cards per turn after this is out.

If a fractal deck faces up against this they would cautiously play only 1-3 of the newly fractaled 8 creatures per turn. This slows down the deck but doesn't deny or shut them down completely. All in all a decent 1 card nerf.

Since this card is other and since it hurts mono and duo decks it would most likely end up in a rainbow deck. If an mindgate deck faces up against they would hesitate on playing more than 1-3 of a stolen creatures per turn, rather they would delay some of the stolen creatures till next turn. This barely would slow a mindgate deck down.

Over the course of a duel this card will create small penalties that would add up but probably not as quanta draining as a single devourer.

For a cost of 6|4 other (which translates to about 2|1.33 mono to compare to devour|pest 2 ) this card is balanced.

[EmeraldTiger]

is this good enough to submit to crucible. please tell me i really need to know.

[OldTrees]

Instead of: Card cost increase

Card costs increase

Other than that I think it may be ready.

[EmeraldTiger]

Ill go ahead and submit it see what our awesome curators have to say before any other fixes are done.

[AnonymousRevival]

I think that's a good idea.