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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg242758#msg242758
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 12:17:15 am »
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg242764#msg242764
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 12:32:00 am »
Really like the idea of this card. This + Quint would totally destroy decks like the duo Fire/Water AI3, that rely on Fire Spirit and Steam Machine buffs. In the interests of balance, though, I'd up the cost of both cards to 3 :darkness , and change the stats to 2|2 and 4|2 respectively.

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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg242783#msg242783
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 01:00:00 am »
Very, very interesting concept, the card effect really fits the darkness theme of twisting things around and messing things up. A totally evil deck is Devil's advocate Otyugh-bow. Also, I think it's supposed to be Chaos Power under lycanthrope in your table but it says Chaos seed.

With:
Devil's advocate x4
Supernova x6
Entropy Pendulum x6
Chaos Power x4
Quintessence x3
Momentum x3
Otyugh x4h

A great alternative counter for growth creatures other than lobotomize. I think that this card has a good balance with the low HP. What can I say? the card is awesome and I'm glad someone thought of it :) I will definitely vote for this card to go further into card development. Why not a 3 :darkness cost for unupped? Perhaps you should actually think about nerfing it a bit and try the effect lasts every 2 turns? Because of the possible first turn-quinted devil's advocate the card would be a bit OP if used against certain FGs. Since there are other cards in crucible that are going to minus the creature's attack, this could be a good counter for those cards too. It would be hilarious to see a 1|11 lycanthrope but at the same time it'd be scary if my wyrm/pegasus could only double it's HP for one turn. Rage potion would be a good card for a combo with this card.
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg242789#msg242789
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 01:16:48 am »
This... seems like a nice lil' card. I'll try to explain what I think of ever combo;

• Lycanthoropy: A defensive combo. Seems situational, But Lycantharope is a very good rushing card

• Chaos Seed: Why, hello, Mr. Liquid Shadow.

• Pandemonium: Most of the spells that Pandemonium causes don't affect attack anyways, so... yeah.

• Scavenger: Another defensive combo. Those bitchy Vultures are now... less bitchy.

• Momentum: Otyugh + Momentum + this = a better Otyugh.

• Devour: Otyugh, meet Quint. He is your new best friend.

• Fire Eater: Another defensive combo. Does make it nearly un-killable for the retarded AI, though.

• Forest Spirit's Growth: Another defensive combo. Does make it nearly un-killable for the retarded AI, though.
 
• Fire Spirit's Ablaze: Another defensive combo. Does make it nearly un-killable for the retarded AI, though.

• Lava Golem's Growth: Another defensive combo. Does make it nearly un-killable for the retarded AI, though.

• Rage Potion: Pretty situational, because there are no obtainable cards with this ability. (Yesh, exaduration, but how many times have you seen them in PVP?)

• Steam Machine: Another defensive combo. Does make it nearly un-killable for the retarded AI, though.

• Pegasus's Dive: Not too sure what to say about this. Possibly the best defensive efect, for The Pegasus's health won't stack every turn.

• Blessing: Need an extreme Buff for a creature? Have one.

• Crusader: Not too sure to say anout this. Seems... interesting...

• Wyrm: Not too sure what to say about this. Possibly the best defensive efect, for The Wyrm's health won't stack every turn.

•Sky Blitz:Possibly the best defensive efect, for any of the creature's health will reset.

• Nightfall/Eclipse: Deathstalker decks? Buh-bye, opponent.

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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg242877#msg242877
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 03:35:12 am »
Thanks a lot guys for the in-depth input :) helps!

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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg243220#msg243220
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 06:16:33 pm »
Great synergy with the god damned hated by everybody dusk shield and the Vampires, making Darkness a very hard to kill element.
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg243626#msg243626
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 02:01:59 am »
Thanks for the support there Rutarete

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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg253318#msg253318
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2011, 12:41:42 pm »
It's easy to kill in this state, but it's effect makes it's hp easier to buff (blessing, eclipse, etc) :) I like it.

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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg253433#msg253433
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2011, 04:32:08 pm »
It's easy to kill in this state, but it's effect makes it's hp easier to buff (blessing, eclipse, etc) :) I like it.
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg253451#msg253451
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2011, 04:53:28 pm »
Very good card.

One question : If i place another Devil in play while another one is in play, would it reverse the effect (all hp changes will affect attack)?
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg253496#msg253496
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2011, 06:45:36 pm »
Very good card.

One question : If i place another Devil in play while another one is in play, would it reverse the effect (all hp changes will affect attack)?
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Re: Devil's Advocate | Devil's Advocate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18993.msg254132#msg254132
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2011, 02:21:40 pm »
Really, really great idea, versatile, useful and the name fits too. No wonder it's in the cruc.

 

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