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Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385132#msg385132
« on: August 26, 2011, 10:13:08 pm »
NAME:
Dark Cultist
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
:darkness :darkness Soul Drain: For one round halve the stats of a creature and add them to Dark Cultist
NAME:
Dark Cultist
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|5
TEXT:
:darkness Soul Drain: For one round halve the stats of a creature and add them to Dark Cultist
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1213473 mzacha modified by avantasia666
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NOTES:
Stat loss is rounded down. If a creature would lose 2,5 Att it will lose 2.
If a creature is Soul Drained twice in a turn it's stats are halved and then the new stats are halved again.

Example: Soul Drain used on Horned Frog (3|3). Frog would lose 1 ATT and 1 HP leaving it 2|2. Dark Cultist would get the stats the Frog looses so it would end at 4|6. At the beginning of your next round the stats will normalize.

I'm not sure what should happen with voodoo doll. Dealing 8 / 10 damage per round in a mono without any penalties is OP. Make an exception for voodoo doll? Or all darkness creatures?

Card art is a bit crappy i know. Maybe someone could make some for this?
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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385133#msg385133
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 10:19:27 pm »
Interesting card. By the way, how did you make the card design (border, etc.)?
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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385134#msg385134
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 10:24:21 pm »

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385205#msg385205
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2011, 03:20:57 am »
It is nice, especially against things like Dive based decks and growth based decks, former since their 'attack' is worth more to them, latter because they get absurd amounts of it. What happens if the same creature gets soul drained multiple times? Just halved again, or is the other half taken leaving it a 0/0? Former would be more balanced, but if done right and if it could be left at a default 1/1 after two uses that would be interesting.

Also, you want 'halve', not 'half' for that use of the word.

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385223#msg385223
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2011, 05:35:38 am »
It is nice, especially against things like Dive based decks and growth based decks, former since their 'attack' is worth more to them, latter because they get absurd amounts of it. What happens if the same creature gets soul drained multiple times? Just halved again, or is the other half taken leaving it a 0/0? Former would be more balanced, but if done right and if it could be left at a default 1/1 after two uses that would be interesting.

Also, you want 'halve', not 'half' for that use of the word.
The effect only lasts for one turn. So the creatures get their normal stats back.

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385225#msg385225
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2011, 05:40:08 am »
No, what I meant is, if you have two dark cultists out on the field, and you targetted the same opponent with both of them. Example, your opponent is running a big golem and has it at 20/1 via growth and rage potion.

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385283#msg385283
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2011, 09:03:23 am »
It is nice, especially against things like Dive based decks and growth based decks, former since their 'attack' is worth more to them, latter because they get absurd amounts of it. What happens if the same creature gets soul drained multiple times? Just halved again, or is the other half taken leaving it a 0/0? Former would be more balanced, but if done right and if it could be left at a default 1/1 after two uses that would be interesting.

Also, you want 'halve', not 'half' for that use of the word.
Thanks for feedback.
I think the best would be that it is halved again. Added that to the notes. And thanks for the correction. My English isn't the best =D

Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385312#msg385312
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2011, 11:45:45 am »
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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385413#msg385413
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2011, 04:38:35 pm »
Is there any other use for this besides CC?
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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385422#msg385422
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2011, 05:01:45 pm »
Is there any other use for this besides CC?
Maybe. Of course CC is the main use. There may be situations where you want your own creatures lose stats. You would be able to play Butterfly Effect on creatures with up to 6 attack. Okay thats very situational but there may be more situations. =)

I want some feedback from the community: What should happen when Soul Drain is used on a vodoo doll?

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385425#msg385425
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2011, 05:05:33 pm »
Is there any other use for this besides CC?
Maybe. Of course CC is the main use. There may be situations where you want your own creatures lose stats. You would be able to play Butterfly Effect on creatures with up to 6 attack. Okay thats very situational but there may be more situations. =)

I want some feedback from the community: What should happen when Soul Drain is used on a vodoo doll?
Damage is done as half of voodoo's hp. Then its health is given back to the doll. Kinda OP, but that's how it should work.

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Re: Dark Cultist | Dark Cultist https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30318.msg385447#msg385447
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2011, 05:22:34 pm »
Damage is done as half of voodoo's hp. Then its health is given back to the doll. Kinda OP, but that's how it should work.
That's what I first thought. But then we had a new OP- Voodoo-deck.

The question is: Does it count as damage that the stats are halved?

The second question is: What could be a better name for the ability? As Scaredgirl mentioned in chat Soul Drain doesn't fit for an effect that ends after one round.

 

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