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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249667#msg249667
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 01:55:38 am »
I think the cost needs to decrese by at least 2 :darkness.
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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249671#msg249671
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2011, 01:57:55 am »
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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249707#msg249707
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2011, 02:26:39 am »
I'd like to leave its skill to be able to steal both passive and active skills because I think that leads to more possibilities and "fun"!

I don't know about creatures with multiple abilities, but my inclination is that it can only steal "native skill," not something that was added because technically, that's not the creature's skill but the spell card's.

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249716#msg249716
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2011, 02:29:39 am »
Regarding the cost reduction, are we sure about this?

I just want everyone to remember that you are not using that many quanta "just to use the skill." You are "stealing it," which means that your opponent's creature is stripped of its ability (if it's a creature that relies on its skill, it becomes essentially useless). So, it is more powerful than it appears at a glance.

If people still want the cost reduced, please let me know.

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249719#msg249719
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 02:32:21 am »
I say reduce it, and maybe change the name of the upped one, just to calm the crowd because  :darkness doesn't mean evil :P Anyways, I like Shadow Avatar.

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249720#msg249720
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 02:34:21 am »
I'd like to leave its skill to be able to steal both passive and active skills because I think that leads to more possibilities and "fun"!

I don't know about creatures with multiple abilities, but my inclination is that it can only steal "native skill," not something that was added because technically, that's not the creature's skill but the spell card's.
If a skeleton learns to Destroy then Dark Avatar should steal the new ability too because it is indeed That skeleton's ability.

Regarding the cost reduction, are we sure about this?

I just want everyone to remember that you are not using that many quanta "just to use the skill." You are "stealing it," which means that your opponent's creature is stripped of its ability (if it's a creature that relies on its skill, it becomes essentially useless). So, it is more powerful than it appears at a glance.

If people still want the cost reduced, please let me know.
The reason I want the cost reduced is because the average skill learned is only worth a +(3-4) increase in the casting cost of the original creature.

PS: Darkness was not, is not and never will be synonymous with Evil. Please change upgraded name to Shadow Avatar or something less accusatory.
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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249721#msg249721
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2011, 02:41:47 am »
So, if I make the original costs like this, would it work?

Unupped: 4 to play the card & 1 to steal & 2 to use it

Upped: 3 to play the card & 1 to steal & 1 to use it

Let me know if this works.

By the way, in my own view, I thought evil would be complimentary to Dark creatures, so I didn't think much of it. I come from a culture that doesn't see Evil as "bad" but rather a different attribute that has its respected qualities too. I'll change it though. I do like Shadow Avatar's sound (thanks!).

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249727#msg249727
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2011, 02:48:59 am »
So, if I make the original costs like this, would it work?

Unupped: 4 to play the card & 1 to steal & 2 to use it

Upped: 3 to play the card & 1 to steal & 1 to use it

Let me know if this works.

By the way, in my own view, I thought evil would be complimentary to Dark creatures, so I didn't think much of it. I come from a culture that doesn't see Evil as "bad" but rather a different attribute that has its respected qualities too. I'll change it though. I do like Shadow Avatar's sound (thanks!).
That looks good.
Thanks for the name change. (Light loves to spread false propaganda. :P Although we lucked out with the Honest Masters of Light so far.)
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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249824#msg249824
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 04:59:58 am »
I'm new to this game (like a month now), so I had no idea about those team conflicts.

Anyhow, changes are made  :)

I also finally got around making the series thread.

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249829#msg249829
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2011, 05:05:03 am »
the title of the thread can and needs to be edited through the opening post.

I wasn't referring to the team (the team is well behaved) but rather the TV Trope.
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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg249830#msg249830
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2011, 05:07:05 am »
Oops. Thanks for pointing that out  :)

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Re: Dark Avatar | Shadow Avatar https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19610.msg252512#msg252512
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2011, 01:04:23 pm »
TEXT should say

:darkness :darkness Soul Stealer : Steals a target creature's skill. Stolen skill can be used at the cost of 2 darkness quanta.
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:darkness :darkness Soul Stealer : Steals a target creature's skill. Stolen skill can be used at the cost of 2 darkness quanta.or, if you're willing to change the card image, too

:darkness :darkness : Soul Stealer
Steals a target creature's skill. Stolen skill can be used at the cost of :darkness :darkness .
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:darkness :darkness : Soul Stealer
Steals a target creature's skill. Stolen skill can be used at the cost of :darkness :darkness .
Remember to use the quanta icon for the tables in Life, Death, Gravity, and Aether, too.

 

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