Damocles | Damocles

[furballdn]

NAME: Damocles ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: 0|14 when flying TEXT: Weapon: Gain 7 damage per turn but do not attack. : deal damage this turn. Attack is returned to 0.	NAME: Damocles ELEMENT: Gravity COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: 0|14 when flying TEXT: Weapon: Gain 7 damage per turn but do not attack. : deal damage this turn. Attack is returned to 0.

ART: VK (a few pixels added by furballdn) IDEA: furballdn NOTES: The Sword of Damocles was a sword kept up by a horse hair and hung over Damocles as a warning. This card is sort of like that, living life on the edge, offering lots of potential damage, but the risk of it being destroyed or stolen before damage is done. The attack gain is a passive ability. Removing the active ability of this card makes it so it cannot do damage. A stolen Damocles keeps its attack. A crusader that endows this will not attack unless it uses up 1 per turn, and when it does, its attack goes to 0. SERIES:

[Rutarete]

So I can either pay for 7 damage or for 28 damage, or for a OHKO. Sounds fun! Just make a deck with a few of these, some BB and SS for stall, and you're set!

Edit: Forgot to add PA ^.

[furballdn]

So I can either pay for 7 damage or for 28 damage, or for a OHKO. Sounds fun! Just make a deck with a few of these, some BB and SS for stall, and you're set!

Correction:
You pay 3 + 1 turn for 7 damage.
You pay 3 + 4 turns for 28 damage.
For an OTK, you pay 3 + 14 turns.

That is also not counting that this card can be destroyed, stolen, or any of the others.

Compare to titan.
Damocles = 3 --> 7 damage per turn with risk of destroyed/stolen and losing all damage done
Titan = 5 --> momentum + 8 damage per turn + 50 hp for use with cata/overdrive/others

[Rutarete]

That is also not counting that this card can be destroyed, stolen, or any of the others.

That example deck I mentioned was supposed to have PA.

[furballdn]

That is also not counting that this card can be destroyed, stolen, or any of the others.

That example deck I mentioned was supposed to have PA.

3 + 1 + 2 cards --> 7 damage per turn is OP?
5 + 1 card --> 8 unblockable damabe per turn
5 + 1 card --> 8 damage per turn untargettable

[Evan_85]

It is actually lovely. I'm not a huge gravity fan, but that has potential.

Also besides perma-control, keep in mind the blocks too. Everyone carries at least a fog shiled, and gravity pull also works. It's too calculabe to rely on, even with PA.

Though isn't that a bit too cheap? Every rainbow will pack two.

[AnonymousRevival]

If i use animate weapon on these, summon out a few and just wait for a couple of turns, it forms an OTK OP deck because you only Ned to wait for less than ten turns and more than 100 dmg is dealt.

[furballdn]

Why can't you guys compare this to Titan? If you were to only drop the blade for the kill, you'd use 3 , only 2 less than Titan. If you were to attack with this every turn, it would be worse than titan since it'd cost more.

Cheap? I started with Titan's price (5 ), then took off 1 since it lacked momentum (4 ), and then took off another because of the riskiness involved with this (3 ) in order to actually deal damage.

Also compare this to some other weapons. Longsword is 1 for +6 damage per turn. This is 3 for +7 damage per turn. Vampire dagger is 2 +6 damage + 6 healing per turn.

Now which would you rather have?

5 for 8 unblockable damage per turn
3 for 7 damage per turn and plenty of risk
1 for 6 damage per turn
2 for 6 damage and 6 healing per turn

[OldTrees]

I think it is UP.

Best case scenario it is a Titan for 1 less 
Good case scenario it is a Titan without momentum for 1 less 
Bad case scenario it is a Titan without momentum (the ability was used twice before PC hit)
Worse case scenario you wasted 3
Worst case scenario  deck Steals


@furballdn
The 7 atk Titan is the correct comparison

[Cheesy111]

I think it is UP.

Best case scenario it is a Titan for 1 less 
Good case scenario it is a Titan without momentum for 1 less 
Bad case scenario it is a Titan without momentum (the ability was used twice before PC hit)
Worse case scenario you wasted 3
Worst case scenario  deck Steals


@furballdn
The 7 atk Titan is the correct comparison

The problem with cards like this (and SoP, hint hint) is that winning in fewer turns also helps to lower healing done and damage prevented.  For example, Titan hitting every turn against two sanctuaries does practically nothing (lowers the amount of damage required for kill by 8, important to distinguish this from doing 8 damage every turn).  This card, however, can OTK when Titan would have no chance of doing any damage.  It can unleash a large amount of damage, especially when combined with one-turn-only effects like Catapult, to do damage that is unhealable (because it occurs on your turn) in a kill scenario.  It is also less affected by shields, and although Titan shares this similarity it is included for completeness and comparison to other damage-raising-over-time effects.

[OldTrees]

Fair point. I no longer think it is UP.

[furballdn]

Damocles was designed to be anti passive healing. It is also cheaper but more risky. In your opinion though, is it balanced?