Cyclops | Elite Clyclops

[traceurling]

Hmm good point...do you think making it cost might be more balanced? Right now Im trying to compare it to mitosis...(btw does mitosis on flying weapons actually work?)

[moomoose]

no it used to, though, but was nerfed while still in beta because of how much it was abused.  personally i dont like the idea of repeatedly summoning creatures with that atk value at any cost, my recommendation of having it be a one time use ability stands.

[legion_bre]

I don't think it should have the fly ability cast. It is too powerful as it creatures high damage high hp creatures at very little cost and it has the hp to survive most forms of single use CC.

I do however like the idea of creating weapons. Perhaps you could have it work like this:

Unupped: Generate random weapon or shield.
Upped: Generate random weapon or shield of your mark. (OR: generate random upgraded weapon or shield)

This should make it more balanced. I means it could be used to counter permanent control by generating each turn, but made reasonable by the fact you get a random item and so cannot guarantee you get the one you want.

Also the quanta cost for playing the card is virtually never increased in the upped card unless the creature has a higher attack (which is doesnt here).

With the idea of forge - perhaps a dwarf would be a better fit. They are definitely earth creatures, tend to have high hp and low damage in most games and have a affinity for forging items. Dwarf | Battle Dwarf

[stereohelix]

also, you need permission from the artist to use his work, read here: https://www.flickr.com/people/r8r/

He would have a hard time holding you to that since he already released it publicly for non-commercial use.

To avoid arguments it would still be nice to ask him though.

[moomoose]

he explicitly stated it, dont be a jerk- vrt will obliterate you.

[stereohelix]

Sorry if I came across as a jerk. I recommend being nice and asking him.

[legion_bre]

Anyway - this picture doesn't match the quality of elements images & needs a background. So its probably a good thing that the image be changed or altered.

[legion_bre]

On another note - the description shouldnt have any capitals except the skill itself when colon is used ie

Forge: generate a flying other weapon

OR

: Forge
Generate a flying other weapon

[stereohelix]

Hmm good point...do you think making it cost might be more balanced? Right now Im trying to compare it to mitosis...(btw does mitosis on flying weapons actually work?)

If you compare it to mitosis on a giant frog or the death spider (sorry the actual card names are escaping me right now), you're pretty close.

[Vangelios]

 Surely this card is less than the FFQ and Pharaoh, if you think about it. FFQ creates a creature 3atk with light, skill that makes combo with hope or sanctuary, and Pharaoh generates a creature 2atk, that works as CC, and Cyclops generates a creature ~3atk without any skill, frankly this balanced.

[stereohelix]

My concern was just about the upped card. The unupped seems fine to me too.

[legion_bre]

Surely this card is less than the FFQ and Pharaoh, if you think about it. FFQ creates a creature 3atk with light, skill that makes combo with hope or sanctuary, and Pharaoh generates a creature 2atk, that works as CC, and Cyclops generates a creature ~3atk without any skill, frankly this balanced.

Yes consider the FFQ upped still only produces creatures with 3 attack. While upped cyclops produces flying weapons with attack of 4-7. Also I would point out that fireflies only have 2 HP, while these weapon can have upto 6 -see below:

Item	Stats	Bonus
Long Bow	6|4	+1atk for
Gavel	6|6	+1atk for /
Long Sword	6|2	None
Dirk	4|1	+1atk for /