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Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372517#msg372517
« on: July 28, 2011, 05:57:44 am »
NAME:
Confusion
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Randomly scramble 10 quanta on the opponent's pool. For every :entropy scrambled gain 5 life.
NAME:
Confusion
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
:entropy
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Randomly scramble 10 quanta on the opponent's pool. For every :entropy scrambled gain 5 life.
ART:
Flayne (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,18322.0.html)
IDEA:
Solarias
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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372537#msg372537
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 07:12:37 am »
Extremely powerful against entropy,maybe too powerful?

Oh, and it'll be a really big problem for mono decks.

Dunno, just my opinion. You can ignore it if you like.

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372539#msg372539
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 07:14:50 am »
Extremely powerful against entropy,maybe too powerful?

Dunno, just my opinion. You can ignore it if you like.
It's a one-time scramble that doesn't even deal damage.
The card probably could use a -1 or -2 cost because it's healing is so limited compared to something like Holy Flash and it's offensive potential is not as great as Discords.

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372733#msg372733
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 04:45:21 pm »
you dont have to hesitate posting cards as complete as this straight to level 0.  more eyeballs will see it there.  pre-smithy is mostly for "i have an idea, but not quite sure what to do with it or how to put it all together", whereas level 0 is for "hey guys, is this cool? should i change anything? is it balanced?"

-just leave the ATK|HP and series fields completely blank for spells/permanents and non-series cards respectively, a curator will tell you that if you try to submit it to level 1.

as-is, its a one turn discord with a healing benefit, i like the twist.
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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372761#msg372761
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 05:34:18 pm »
Well I am new to card making and I'm posting it here to get feedback from the community before I ask it moved. :) I didn't want it to be as powerful as Black Hole because that would be a little weird then. So reduce the cost? What about the healing? Do you think it's too much?

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372765#msg372765
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 05:38:06 pm »
keep the healing, reduce the cost by either 1 or 2 (id say 2).

its definitely not as powerful as black hole, black hole deletes quanta.  this is more of a combination of black hole and a single turn of discord
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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372823#msg372823
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 07:57:23 pm »
I'd say increasing the life gained to 5 hp, that way it would have a little more healing potential against Rainbow and Entropy decks at least, but overall nice idea, I think it should be cheaper though, like 3 :entropy since it is far weaker than Black hole in Healing, but still has small effect, perhaps the Unup can be 3 :entropy and Upgraded can be 2 :entropy ?

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg372998#msg372998
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2011, 05:30:36 am »
I'd say increasing the life gained to 5 hp, that way it would have a little more healing potential against Rainbow and Entropy decks at least, but overall nice idea, I think it should be cheaper though, like 3 :entropy since it is far weaker than Black hole in Healing, but still has small effect, perhaps the Unup can be 3 :entropy and Upgraded can be 2 :entropy ?
I will add those changes as soon as I can! Ty Flayne!

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg373001#msg373001
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2011, 05:37:55 am »
@Flayne I worked this a bit more is this what you had in mind?

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg373004#msg373004
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2011, 05:46:36 am »
Can a forum moderator please move this to the smithy please? Thank you.

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg373377#msg373377
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 11:26:23 pm »
Looks a lot better, however I've had a bit of an idea that may help you,

instead of :entropy "scrambled", it could be: Gain 5 hp for each :entropy involved.

This is essentially better than the effect now, because its not just :entropy scrambled, its also for each :entropy Appearance, for instance:

Disorder mixes or scrambles opponents quanta into different ones correct? therefore there is a chance that an :entropy appears or Disappears,
the same should be applied to the effects of this card, healing you for 5 hp for each :entropy Involved (appearance or disappearance)
this effect that I suggested is actually a lot better and more efficient, therefore I advice you to do the following:

put the Cost back the way it was but change the effect to what I suggested and give the same explanation of the effect on your table.
its totally up to you.

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Re: Confusion | Confusion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29200.msg373569#msg373569
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2011, 10:07:21 am »
Well whether its scrambled into the :entropy field or out still means its scrambled but I will change the wording to better denote that.   

 

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