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Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369670#msg369670
« on: July 22, 2011, 05:36:18 am »
NAME:
Bone Spirit
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
7 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Momentum
All other death or darkness
creatures gain +1/+1.
NAME:
Elite Bone Spirit
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
6 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
Momentum
All other death or darkness
creatures gain +1/+1.
ART:
Hawanja
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13315.0
IDEA:
ninjaclone09
NOTES:
The card is kind of like nightfall, except in creature form. If you think this card is overpowered or underpowered, help would be appreciated :) thanks.
Oh and by the way, like nightfall, this card's ability doesn't stack.
Also note that this makes OTHER creatures gain +1/+1, not itself.
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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369674#msg369674
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2011, 05:39:27 am »
Overpowered, since Fractal can go BOOM.
Think of it this way. Fractal this, and play all copies. You've got 9 creatures with 11|11. That's 99 damage in a single turn. Being in one of the extra quanta-producing elements, this is a duo :death / :aether MUST.
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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369684#msg369684
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2011, 06:04:45 am »
Wai so expensive?

@Nepy: I assume the effect, like Nightfall, doesn't stack.

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369688#msg369688
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2011, 06:25:58 am »
Wai so expensive?

@Nepy: I assume the effect, like Nightfall, doesn't stack.
I assume it does.
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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369733#msg369733
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 09:40:36 am »
I think it wont stack. Like Nightfalls/Eclipses dont normally stack anyway.
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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369911#msg369911
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 06:09:13 pm »
It doesn't stack.

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369914#msg369914
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 06:21:04 pm »
These would be really fun death/darkness duo with bloodsuckers, graveyard and eclipse.

I do think momentum is something more in gravity's arsenal than death's.

If momentum is removed, I think the cost should go down quite a bit. but even now it seems pretty expensive.

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369919#msg369919
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 06:28:06 pm »
ok then lower it down to 6 cost? and 5 for upped? Or what?

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369921#msg369921
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2011, 06:34:31 pm »
Just one thing I'd like to point out:

"All other death or darkness creatures..."

The highlighted part to me implies that the actual Bone Spirit doesn't receive the 'Nightfall'-esque bonus when it's out on the field, which also doesn't stack with the Nightfall effect either. This means that Bone Spirit is a terrible creature to spam as an individual component, BUT it serves as an attacking field permanent (if Nightfall had stats). With that said, I could see you reducing the cost of both cards by at least 1 (so it's 7 :death -> 6 :death), and also clarifying within your notes that the Bone Spirit doesn't benefit from its own ability.

The Momentum throws me off a bit, but that doesn't matter too much. Deathstalkers would benefit the most from this card in mono-Death decks, but aside from that, it's a good concept.

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369950#msg369950
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2011, 07:42:08 pm »
Fixed it so its 7 :death and upped is 6 :death

Im going to go candidate this for crucible now :)

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369952#msg369952
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 07:46:03 pm »
It seems like a pretty reasonable card to me.  One question though.  Now, I realize that if you had several of these out they wouldn't stack, but what if you had one of this creature and one eclipse, would you get +3/+2, or just the eclipse, since it's more?

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Re: Bone Spirit | Elite Bone Spirit https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28950.msg369988#msg369988
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 09:56:15 pm »
who rated this topic 1/5 stars ;(

 

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